I don't know Jack about rifles.

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I pretty much only own handguns. I'm thinking my next purchase may be a rifle. I'm eyeballing a SIG556 SWAT and M&P15T. Like I said I don't know Jack about rifles. Any opinions on either of these? How about other suggestions? Keep in mind I live in a free state, so restrictions aren't much of an issue. It may be a few months before I'm ready to spend some more disposable income.
 
Meh, overpriced, IMHO. You'd be better to build them yourself to your personal preferences/standards.

Read up on ar15.com for more info on building it yourself.
 
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Either one of those is a great choice. The Sig is really nice out of the box, especially the trigger. The M&P15 gives you all the various AR-15 upgrade paths.
 
You can't go wrong with an AK variant. You can get one cheap and they're reliable. You can also get the ammo cheaper than a lot of other rifle calibers. One way to go is buy a WASR 10 and trick it out with aftermarket parts. I also recommend an SKS as an option.
 
If you don't know anything about rifles, then you don't want to build one yourself. Get a good factory rifle. I would go for the S&W over the Sig. Also look at Rock river arms or CMMG
 
I think the best way to learn the ar15 platform is to buy a basic rifle. Once you start, you will likely find that you favor particular stocks, optics, rails, etc. You can always use a spare ar15, right? So, I would look for a nice used one or pick up Bushmaster, Rock River, CMMG, etc. For the first ar15, I would get a carbine for general utility. And stock up on new 30 round mags. You never know how long they will be this cheap and easy to get (even in NH).
 
If you don't know anything about rifles, then you don't want to build one yourself. Get a good factory rifle. I would go for the S&W over the Sig. Also look at Rock river arms or CMMG

I disagree, if you are mechanically inclined or can follow directions building one yourself is a great way to better understand a rifle. You may spend some more time putting it together, but you'll save a good chunk of $$$ you can spend on ammo.

But if you are stuck with buying one, I'd head up to Riley's they always have cheap AR's around (550-700 range) that would be better for getting started and leave you with money for ammo. That is unless you just have a wad of cash to spend. If so, I've got a good 300 yard range near me and I'll put your 50 cal Barrett in my safe for safe keeping and your usage when you swing by.
 
Or just buy an inexpensive .22lr. Get your basics down and see if you really like shooting long gun. No worries[thinking]

That wouldn't be like me. If I'm going to do something I just dive right in full gusto. What wouldn't be to like about shooting any gun? Even if I seldom use it.......can one possibly have too many guns?
 
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Buy either a conversion kit for your AR (don't waste money on the dedicated uppers) and fire regular ammo out the barrel every 100 rounds to be safe, or grab yourself a Ruger 10/22 for 100 bucks used, and learn to shoot first. I was like you, I didn't know anything about rifles for awhile, and while it's not hard to learn on an AR, it's alot cheaper to learn on a .22 rifle.

Just saw your new post, yeah, go ahead and buy the AR, but get it with a 50 beowolf upper, go all out. Get an ACOG sight with the integral weaver mount atop it, and attach an EOtech to that. Grab a magpul stock, a competition barrel, Wilson Combat everything, and dip the whole thing in gold. There you are,an all out rifle.
 
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Just saw your new post, yeah, go ahead and buy the AR, but get it with a 50 beowolf upper, go all out. Get an ACOG sight with the integral weaver mount atop it, and attach an EOtech to that. Grab a magpul stock, a competition barrel, Wilson Combat everything, and dip the whole thing in gold. There you are,an all out rifle.

[rolleyes] Thanks for the help. [rolleyes]
 
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Sorry, I couldn't resist [smile]

Yeah, either rifle is a fine selection, but if you want a real tack driver, check out some of the Wilson Tactical (or is it combat, one is a clothing line one is a weapons line) AR-15 models, they are incredible, but so are the prices [sad]
 
Meh, overpriced, IMHO. You'd be better to build them yourself to your personal preferences/standards.

Read up on ar15.com for more info on building it yourself.

FWIW, I priced out the parts to make something equivelent to the M&P15FT (including the railed forend and Troy BUIS set), the M&P worked out to be a bit cheaper after the rebate.
 
That wouldn't be like me. If I'm going to do something I just dive right in full gusto. What wouldn't be to like about shooting any gun? Even if I seldom use it.......can one possibly have too many guns?

Well, if you're the kinda guy who only has disposable income every couple months, you might want to spend the difference between a $1700 AR and an $800 AR on ammo and training. So yes, if your safe is full of guns without ammo to feed them or the skill to hit with them out to full distance (something that takes quite a bit of ammo to accomplish), one can have too many guns.

The half gusto version will be more accurate than you for quite a while. In fact, by the time you might notice the difference between a match and normal barrel, you will have shot the extra accuracy out of your match barrel. The stock version might even be lighter and more comfortable to shoot, or you might find a buddy with an aftermarket accessory you like better than whatever upgrade you already paid for. Not all upgrade$ are necessarily noticable or make things easier on the beginner.

BTW... hate to break it to ya, but you're not going full gusto with rifles until you're tagging truck engines at a mile away with Raufoss. But it would be pretty gusto-y of you to hit 500m targets with a rack grade rifle, don't ya think? [smile]

This is coming from a guy who abhors gun vs. gun arguments. [smile]
 
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FWIW, I priced out the parts to make something equivelent to the M&P15FT (including the railed forend and Troy BUIS set), the M&P worked out to be a bit cheaper after the rebate.

I agree. the MP at $1200-$1300 with the Troy BUIS, rails etc...is hard to build in similar spec for a whole lot less.
 
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