I just purchased my first Rifle, but I have an issue.

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I just purchased my first rifle. I'm pretty excited, since I live in Watertown and it took 7 months to get my LTC. So for my first gun, I wanted a Rifle. A Soviet SKS to be exact. Not Chinese or Czech, but Russian..I went to my LGS with a friend to see if they had this rifle, but he just sold the one. I asked him if he ever gets a SOVIET sks that I might be interested. He said he might have one in his inventory and would get back to me. I got an email from him a few days later, saying he had just handpicked out of his inventory a soviet sks and I wanted to see it. I went today to look at it. It was a little worn, but it seemed good. Since I'm really a novice at this, I'm not really sure what to look at. I'm trusting the shop owner a little I guess. He was saying this particular soviet gun was a really good shooter. A good cleaning and it would be great. He must have mentioned Soviet a few time when refering to this gun. I paid for it and went home. I guess I should have looked at it more carefully, because when I did an overall inspection at home, on the barrel it was stamped China. It was a little hard to see, but it was there. I guess I should have seen this in the shop, but I didn't. I feel like I was taken a bit. I emailed him earlier, but I haven't heard back. I'm a little pissed. Not sure I have a question. Just a rant.

Sorry to bitch on my first post...
 
Could be an honest mistake or could be a douche ripping you off.
If so try to work it out but let it he a lesson learned. If they don't work it out well out the shop so we know where to be Leary of
 
I have heard about a sino soviet sks before but unsure if it is a good thing or bad thing and if this rifle of yours is a sino soviet. If it isnt what you want and they are a decent shop, they should make it right. If not, out them.
 
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I met him a few times. My friend has bought a few from him. He seems like a good guy, but how can he not know that this gun was a Chinese and not what I asked for. I'm not saying he scammed me, but I'll wait for him to get back to me. He also knew it was my first purchase. I hope he gets back to me soon. I'm pretty reasonable, I hope he is too.
 
Bulls Beers said:
I met him a few times. My friend has bought a few from him. He seems like a good guy, but how can he not know that this gun was a Chinese and not what I asked for. I'm not saying he scammed me, but I'll wait for him to get back to me. He also knew it was my first purchase. I hope he gets back to me soon. I'm pretty reasonable, I hope he is too.
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You know that when you post stuff like this everyone wants to "out" the owner and name of the shop because in the soul of many NES'ers there lies a 78 year old busybody gossipy old lady.

Maybe the guy is misrepresenting himself, but then again, maybe he doesn't know that much about SKS's. Just because you own a gun shop or work at one doesn't make you an expert on all guns or any guns for that matter. This forum has countless threads on gun shop stupidity.

Now rather than go to this forum and ask: what should I do? What does common sense tell you to do, whether it is a TV, a set of golf clubs or a toaster or a rifle. Just because it is a rifle doesn't make it different than any other piece of merchandise. If it is not as advertised and you found that out, simply take the merchandise back, explain the problem and demand a refund. That's the first step any consumer should do. Then, if you get non-cooperation or resistance, it's time to take more drastic action. As a consumer you do have some rights, but start with step 1.
 
I think we need some pics of the receiver and barrel markings so someone can tell you for sure what you've got.
 
My brain is melting over this.

1. Call or better yet GO to the store. Don't send an email.
2. Posting a thread about maybe getting scammed without ever bringing the attention to the store owner.
3. Who the hell knows what you have. Post pics, let someone here give you some input.
 
Then again, if you didn't pay a premium because it was Soviet, and you paid a reasonable amount that you're happy with, and you are happy with the rifle, then shoot it, and enjoy it.
 
Hey guys, thanks for all the comments. I'm really new at this and maybe I jumped the gun a bit. We did talk and he set me straight. He talked about the back story on this particular firearm. I guess I should have asked at the shop. I also did a little research and he was right on. He really wanted to make absolutely sure I was totally happy with my purchase and would do whatever he needed too. I have to say I'm pretty stoked. I just took it a part today and gave it a deep clean. I can't wait to shoot this weekend.

It's funny. I'm a homebrewer and have been for quite a while. I frequent a homebrewing forum and new brewers sometimes freak out about stuff and now I'm one of them. I'm trying to learn as much as I can. I hope you guys can answer my stupid questions from time to time.
 
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Bulls Beers said:
Hey guys, thanks for all the comments. I'm really new at this and maybe I jumped the gun a bit. We did talk and he set me straight. He talked about the back story on this particular firearm. I guess I should have asked at the shop. I also did a little research and he was right on. He really wanted to make absolutely sure I was totally happy with my purchase and would do whatever he needed too. I have to say I'm pretty stoked. I just took it a part today and gave it a deep clean. I can't wait to shoot this weekend.
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When buying C&R guns, YOU have to know what you're buying. Especially with non-American stuff. Some gun stores know their product exactly, and some have no idea what it is when it comes into the shop.

Since it's your first buy, I wouldn't fret too much. But my suggestion is that if you want to buy older guns more often, or guns that aren't extremely common, you need to know what to look for. Post before you buy, especially since you Mass guys don't have a 7-day waiting period [wink]

I once bought a bad rifle. The week after Newtown, I bought a SMLE No. 1 MkIII* because I had always wanted one. To me, a SMLE is the most beautiful rifle ever. I bought a 1943 Lithgow (Australian). I asked the gun salesman who the importer was and he didn't know. So since RI has a 7-day waiting period, I did a lot of research to find out who imported WW2-era Aussie SMLEs.

Turns out it was a parts gun and the parts were imported in the 1980s by John Jovino & Co, who also assembled the rifles. Problem with the JJ&CO rifles is they sometimes didn't add in little copper reinforcing blocks to the stock, and the wood could shatter or crack without the blocks. I told the gun store and they offered to cancel the deal, and like an idiot I refused and took the rifle home.

That thing was the biggest POS I've ever shot for so many reasons, but I hope you get my point: Post before you buy, Google, Google some more, and don't trust the FFL unless you know what he's saying is true and what you see is true.
 
Bulls Beers said:
He talked about the back story on this particular firearm.
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One of the first things I was told when I got into shooting was, "Buy the gun, not the story."

But hey, when push comes to shove, if you're happy with what you got, then nothing else really matters, right? Happy shooting.
 
TonyDedo said:
One of the first things I was told when I got into shooting was, "Buy the gun, not the story."

But hey, when push comes to shove, if you're happy with what you got, then nothing else really matters, right? Happy shooting.
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I said back story, I should have said history. Artie mentioned Sino Soviet. That seems to be what it is. All the serial numbers match too, which I would guess is a good thing. For my first purchase, I'm pretty happy. I would never buy anything based on a story. Well, maybe a few old Les Paul's that I've bought and sold over the years. I'm glad I found this site.
 
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Snora said:
My brain is melting over this.

1. Call or better yet GO to the store. Don't send an email.
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This x100.
I don't understand why people use email as a vehicle to resolve local issues. Find out exactly what you have as compared to why he told you it was, Go there when they are open. They cant ignore you.
he sounds like a BS artist to me. Told you it was a good shooter, how the hell would he know. I'm sure he doesn't shoot every gun in his store.
I think you should name the store however it turns out. If it turns out good then we will all know he is a stand up guy who took care of it. If he refuses to do anything then we would know to stay away.
A gun shop should be doing whatever they can to help a new customer, not try to take advantage of a new shooter.
 
Bulls Beers said:
I said back story, I should have said history. Artie mentioned Sino Soviet. That seems to be what it is. All the serial numbers match too, which I would guess is a good thing. For my first purchase, I'm pretty happy. I would never buy anything based on a story. Well, maybe a few old Les Paul's that I've bought and sold over the years. I'm glad I found this site.
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Sino Soviet is not Soviet. Sino Soviet means a Chinese gun built on Russian machines. If you like the gun, that's fine. Some guys say that Chinese SKSs are just as good as Russian ones. Like I said, if you're happy that's good, but a Sino Soviet and a Soviet SKS is not the same.

http://www.yooperj.com/SKS-1.htm

If you can, post some pictures of the markings on the steel. Do you know how to use imgur?
 
Kid Presentable said:
just because he owns a gun shop doesn't mean he knows everything.
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Easy solution to that. If you don't know wtf something is, you don't sell it with a specific description that is not accurate. The fault lies with the owner. You don't go to a bakery and order a chocolate cake for a party only to find out later it was vanilla and say it was the customers fault. Of coarse as a consumer you should always educate yourself before buying things to avoid any problems that could be avoided.
 
btnh6668 said:
Easy solution to that. If you don't know wtf something is, you don't sell it with a specific description that is not accurate. The fault lies with the owner. You don't go to a bakery and order a chocolate cake for a party only to find out later it was vanilla and say it was the customers fault. Of coarse as a consumer you should always educate yourself before buying things to avoid any problems that could be avoided.
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Great in theory but not realistic. More of the should talking again. Ever hear of the term caveat emptor it's a jungle out there. We have many idealistic young geniuses who would like the world to be different than it is.
 

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