Kerrys mount campaign to help the environment

[Gabe]

And which free market exactly are you referring to?

The carbon credit market is a market, not a socialist scam. It is free people making free decisions to buy and sell something they find of value. No matter what their internal motives, they are internal. There is no government compulsion to participate in this market. It is market driven environmentalism. The institute that bears your name approves I believe.

Cheers.

 

[Bruce for NH State Rep]

There is no government compulsion to participate in this market.

Not yet, my friend. Not yet.

But, they're working on it.

Anyone who doubts that is a fool.

 

[tele_mark]

Not yet, my friend. Not yet.

But, they're working on it.

Anyone who doubts that is a fool.

It's already begun -- in The Seat Of Runaway Socialism. It's only a short matter of time before it migrates here:

Conservative Party leader David Cameron has seized on global warming to try to change the Tories' "nasty party" image, adopting a tree as the party's new emblem and proposing sweeping new taxes on air travel that would fall heavily on his party's supporters.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21384794-2703,00.html

UK puts carbon targets into law
Peter Wilson, Europe correspondent
15mar07

THE Blair Government yesterday unveiled some of the most radical climate change legislation in the world, but was instantly urged to go even further by Opposition parties, which have made the environment the new focus of British politics.

Prime Minister Tony Blair promised to make Britain the first nation in the world with legally binding carbon reduction targets - which would slash emissions by 60 per cent - but the Conservative Party and centrist Liberal Democrats said there should be even tougher annual targets than the five-year ones proposed by Labour.

The competition to take the "greenest" stand on global warming showed the remarkable rise of the environment as a mainstream political issue in Britain over the past 18 months.

Conservative Party leader David Cameron has seized on global warming to try to change the Tories' "nasty party" image, adopting a tree as the party's new emblem and proposing sweeping new taxes on air travel that would fall heavily on his party's supporters.

Mr Cameron has so far been photographed riding a bicycle to work, planting trees and riding a dog sled to inspect melting glaciers, and has also announced he would like to put a windmill on his home in central London.

Mr Blair, who wants to lead a new global agreement on climate change in his last few months in office, yesterday called global warming "the biggest long-term threat facing our world" and wheeled out Labour's biggest guns to launch the climate change legislation.

Mr Blair was joined for the announcement by Gordon Brown, the Finance Minister who is expected soon to replace him as prime minister, and David Miliband, the 41-year-old Environment Secretary seen by many Labour MPs as "the new Blair" and the only plausible potential challenger to Mr Brown for the leadership.

Mr Miliband said an independent panel would be created to set a five-yearly "carbon budget" and that future governments could face legal action if they failed to cut emissions enough to stay within that budget. Just a week after the European Union set an ambitious target of cutting emissions to 20 per cent below the 1990 level by the year 2020, Mr Miliband said Britain would go further, with cuts of between 26per cent and 32 per cent bythat date and 60 per cent by2050. Aviation and shipping are to be excluded in the initial stages of the scheme but every other sector of society will be subject to the targets.

The draft bill was "the first of its kind in any country" and would allow Britain to "lead by example", Mr Miliband said.

Instead of attacking Labour for imposing new burdens on industry, the Conservatives said limits on emissions should be even stricter.

The Tories said Labour's new targets would allow Britain to be a world leader in fighting carbon emissions but insisted that annual targets would be more effective because they would stop governments from deferring action.

Liberal Democrats spokesman Chris Huhne said the 60 per cent target might "not be good enough". He said: "We may well need to aim more towards about 80 per cent."

While the Confederation of British Industry said the new legislation "struck the right balance", the Green Party called it "dangerously unambitious", arguing for emission cuts of up to 90 per cent.

 

[bpm990d]

On this basis, a true conservationist would embrace nuclear power, since rock-born uranium has few other uses, compared to complex hydrocarbons that, if we were burning them up to heat and light our houses, could produce all sorts of useful medicines and chemicals. But being rabidly anti-nuclear is today a rite of passage for a so-called "environmentalist."

They also don't seem to understand that burning coal liberates more radioactive material into the environment than would ever happen at a nuc plant.

B

 

[Lynne]

And I bet they're laughing all the way to the bank...

I mean seriously... China? EMISSIONS CONTROL? hahahahha...
thats very funny.

-Mike

China is planning on building 2,200 new coal burning plants in the next I forget how many years. His nibs, Sir "I use more electricity than you do" Gore, supports them 100%.

Somehow that just doesn't add up there, Al.

 

[dwarven1]

Mr Cameron has so far been photographed riding a bicycle to work, planting trees and riding a dog sled to inspect melting glaciers, and has also announced he would like to put a windmill on his home in central London.

For what? Decoration?

This proves that it's just a stunt and has no real substance behind it; there's nowhere near enough wind in London to do anything useful with that windmill.

Just another posturing liberal... doing things because they feeeeeeel so good!

 

[Cato]

The carbon credit market is a market, not a socialist scam. It is free people making free decisions to buy and sell something they find of value. No matter what their internal motives, they are internal. There is no government compulsion to participate in this market. It is market driven environmentalism. The institute that bears your name approves I believe.

The only reason the market exists is because governments set quotas on the so called greenhouse gas emissions of businesses. This is regulation which does not amount to a free market and is therefore among other things a socialist scam.