Knoxx Sidewinder AWB issue?

[diesel112]

I just picked up a moss 500. I was trolling Midway USA and came across this. Since it uses a detachable mag and drum, would you have an issue with it becoming an "evil" weapon? also if it was to have a pistol grip as well?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/98...sberg-500-590-590a1-composite-and-steel-black

 

[Rick Roma]

It has to be semi automatic to fall into the AWB. A pump action is good to go. That's a pretty cool set up if it works well....

 

[mike93lx]

Did you notice that it is discontinued?

 

[rlee]

I believe that it falls afoul of the large capacity magazine ban, even though the shotgun itself does not.

 

[Len-2A Training]

I believe that it falls afoul of the large capacity magazine ban, even though the shogun itself does not.

Everyone in MA must keep in mind that the large-cap mag ban is a SEPARATE ISSUE from the AWB.

So as rlee points out, the gun can be OK but the mag (if large-cap new mag) can land you in jail. [NOTE: I haven't looked at the pictures so I don't know about this particular case, just providing info on the law here.]

 

[Mass-diver]

I believe that it falls afoul of the large capacity magazine ban, even though the shotgun itself does not.

Looks like it was either 6 (box mag) or 10(drum) round mag. I wonder was it was discontinued, looked pretty cool.

 

[Len-2A Training]

>5 rd mags are "large capacity" wrt shotguns.

 

[rlee]

One reason large capacity tubes are a gray area is because a tube designed for a magnum shell can hold several more short shells. That ambiguity doesn't exist for a magazine.

 

[Len-2A Training]

One reason large capacity tubes are a gray area is because a tube designed for a magnum shell can hold several more short shells. That ambiguity doesn't exist for a magazine.

Tubes don't count. I had Glidden clear this up for me (and the other 250 attendees) at his May seminar.

I go into detail as to why this is so in my MA Gun Law seminar (see link below).

Due to mini-shells, if tubes counted, every new shotgun would be an illegal new large-cap mag!

 

[rlee]

Tubes don't count. I had Glidden clear this up for me (and the other 250 attendees) at his May seminar.

Was this Glidden's opinion or is it reflected somewhere in regulations or case law?

 

[Len-2A Training]

TTBOMK, this is not spelled out in regs or case law. And I still can't find the MGL that states that we are legally allowed to breathe in MA either.

This was expressed as the opinion of EOPS. I asked publicly because it was an "unknown" to me and I wanted to include that info in my MA Gun Laws seminars.

There is logic to that opinion. I'm sure that I've posted it here before.