MA LTC holder moving out of MA, what are notification requirements?

Cuz

Cuz

NES Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2006
Messages
3,054
Likes
1,447
Location
MA
Feedback: 12 / 0 / 0
When a MA LTC holder moves to another state, what are the current notification requirements with regard to their MA LTC?
It seems that you only need to notify the local police department that issued the LTC, and the FRB, using the change of address form, right???

Thanks
 
I don’t know the specifics, but if there are requirements I’d suggest following them only if you plan on obtaining a non-res LTC, and if not following the notification procedure would some how affect your chances of that.

When I moved out, they got nothing from me. I wasn’t subject to their BS laws anymore, so it wasn’t applicable.

That said, I had no plans for going back to the state and begging for permission to practice my rights there. So I didn’t care about any consequences, if there were any. But I’d have to let others chime in as to the requirements of there are any.
 
In addition, I’d have to check the new law, but I believe the LTC portal lets you do the FRB notification now electronically. Doesn’t solve the PD portion though.
 
Cuz said:
When a MA LTC holder moves to another state, what are the current notification requirements with regard to their MA LTC?
It seems that you only need to notify the local police department that issued the LTC, and the FRB, using the change of address form, right???
Click to expand...

As far as I can tell, notifying the issuing PD and FRB explicitly are no longer requirements. It all gets done through the CJIS portal

C. 140 § 122D(d) (pepper spray)
(d) A permit holder shall report any change of address via the electronic firearm registration system administered by the commissioner of the department of criminal justice information services. Such notification shall be made on the portal within 30 days of its occurrence. Failure to so notify shall be cause for revocation or suspension of such permit.

C. 140 § 129B(e) (FID)
(e) The holder of a firearm identification card shall report any change of address via the electronic firearm registration system administered by the commissioner of the department of criminal justice services. Such notification shall be made on the portal within 30 days of its occurrence. Failure to so notify shall be cause for revocation or suspension of such card.

C. 140 § 131 (LTC)
(g) A person issued a license under this section shall report any change of address via the electronic firearm registration system administered by the commissioner of the department of criminal justice information services. Such notification shall be made on said electronic firearms registration system within 30 days of its occurrence. Failure to notify in a timely manner shall be cause for revocation or suspension of said license.
 
Thank You Sir, May I Have Another?

I did nothing, and IF (that's a REALLY BIG IF) I ever set foot in MA again, there is nothing that would stop me from carrying.
 
Notify via the portal. Unless the new law has changed it, all the FRB will do is change your address in the system. They will neither cancel your license nor send you a new LTC.

You can very that in the verification portal.
 
I moved to Arizona last June 2023.

I did not pass go. I did not collect $200. I did not notify the Salem (MA) Chief nor the FRB. I just got on a plane and left.

In June 2024, I received a reminder to renew with my current AZ address typed right on the post card; no yellow forwarder sticker. Perhaps they obtained my address from the City of Salem (MA) who sent me a check for a partial refund of my excise tax? I have no idea and haven’t cared enough to look into it.

I just made a visit to the Police in my new town two weeks ago to file a theft report. Some a**h*** stole three months of my insulin pump supplies from my apartment complex and BCBS AZ wouldn’t authorize replacement without the report.

The complex has video of the 3 hrs 13 minutes between when I received delivery notification and when I returned home to fetch the package. I have had three or four interactions with a Detective on the force; one time I was even reholstering my pistol in front of him after taking a quick swim in the pool.

No one cares. No one is coming to put the silver bracelets on my wrists. I’m in a free state that I believe would not lift one finger to help if MA ever came looking for me. Heck AZ doesn’t even know or care what firearms I own.

Wednesday, December 4, 2024, my MA LTC expires. I do not plan to replace it with an AZ CCW.

The end.
 
I renewed mine August 2023 because there was a significant possibility that we would not be able to move before my LTC expired in December. I also renewed my DL which expired on the same day. By the time both of those expired we had established residency in Texas. Even though TX doesn't require a LTC there are a few advantages to having one. I could and did carry on my MA LTC until I could get my TX stuff done and my LTC arrived. Even though there is a range test requirement, overall the process is much easier than in MA. And less expensive.

Side note: My LTC instructor in TX was Michael Cargill.

Everyone should do as they think best.

mkm said:
I moved to Arizona last June 2023.

I did not pass go. I did not collect $200. I did not notify the Salem (MA) Chief nor the FRB. I just got on a plane and left.

In June 2024, I received a reminder to renew with my current AZ address typed right on the post card; no yellow forwarder sticker. Perhaps they obtained my address from the City of Salem (MA) who sent me a check for a partial refund of my excise tax? I have no idea and haven’t cared enough to look into it.

I just made a visit to the Police in my new town two weeks ago to file a theft report. Some a**h*** stole three months of my insulin pump supplies from my apartment complex and BCBS AZ wouldn’t authorize replacement without the report.

The complex has video of the 3 hrs 13 minutes between when I received delivery notification and when I returned home to fetch the package. I have had three or four interactions with a Detective on the force; one time I was even reholstering my pistol in front of him after taking a quick swim in the pool.

No one cares. No one is coming to put the silver bracelets on my wrists. I’m in a free state that I believe would not lift one finger to help if MA ever came looking for me. Heck AZ doesn’t even know or care what firearms I own.

Wednesday, December 4, 2024, my MA LTC expires. I do not plan to replace it with an AZ CCW.

The end.
Click to expand...
 
mkm said:
I moved to Arizona last June 2023.

I did not pass go. I did not collect $200. I did not notify the Salem (MA) Chief nor the FRB. I just got on a plane and left.

In June 2024, I received a reminder to renew with my current AZ address typed right on the post card; no yellow forwarder sticker. Perhaps they obtained my address from the City of Salem (MA) who sent me a check for a partial refund of my excise tax? I have no idea and haven’t cared enough to look into it.

I just made a visit to the Police in my new town two weeks ago to file a theft report. Some a**h*** stole three months of my insulin pump supplies from my apartment complex and BCBS AZ wouldn’t authorize replacement without the report.

The complex has video of the 3 hrs 13 minutes between when I received delivery notification and when I returned home to fetch the package. I have had three or four interactions with a Detective on the force; one time I was even reholstering my pistol in front of him after taking a quick swim in the pool.

No one cares. No one is coming to put the silver bracelets on my wrists. I’m in a free state that I believe would not lift one finger to help if MA ever came looking for me. Heck AZ doesn’t even know or care what firearms I own.

Wednesday, December 4, 2024, my MA LTC expires. I do not plan to replace it with an AZ CCW.

The end.
Click to expand...
The AZ CCW is worth having for purchases, carrying in restaurants that serve alcohol, city parks, etc. I’m kicking myself for letting mine lapse in 2022, so now I’ll reapply. I have a MA LTC and Utah CCW, but I still want AZ. I still have property in AZ so I kept an AZ ID card.
 
Garys said:
I renewed mine August 2023 because there was a significant possibility that we would not be able to move before my LTC expired in December. I also renewed my DL which expired on the same day. By the time both of those expired we had established residency in Texas. Even though TX doesn't require a LTC there are a few advantages to having one. I could and did carry on my MA LTC until I could get my TX stuff done and my LTC arrived. Even though there is a range test requirement, overall the process is much easier than in MA. And less expensive.

Side note: My LTC instructor in TX was Michael Cargill.

Everyone should do as they think best.
Click to expand...
Beside needing to have your home state LTC to obtain other states nonresident LTCs are there any other advantages?
 
I just checked the Portal. https://www.mass.gov/forms/change-of-address-notification-form It says you still need to notify the Police Departments by mail too.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________-

Change of Address Notification Form​

Complete the form below to notify the DCJIS/FRB of an address change for your Massachusetts firearms license.

Pursuant to Massachusetts General Law Chapter 140, sections 129B and 131, a cardholder shall notify the licensing authority that issued such firearms license, the chief of police into whose jurisdiction such card holder moves, and the commissioner of the Department of Criminal Justice Information Services of any change of address within 30 days of its occurrence.

Failure to notify any of these entities shall be cause for revocation or suspension of the license.



In lieu of notifying the FRB/DCJIS via certified mail, you may submit the form below to report your change of address.

All fields must be completed fully and accurately.

Notifications to police departments must still be made in writing via certified mail.

You will not receive a replacement license for this request.
 
yanici said:
I just checked the Portal. https://www.mass.gov/forms/change-of-address-notification-form It says you still need to notify the Police Departments by mail too.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________-

Change of Address Notification Form​

Complete the form below to notify the DCJIS/FRB of an address change for your Massachusetts firearms license.

Pursuant to Massachusetts General Law Chapter 140, sections 129B and 131, a cardholder shall notify the licensing authority that issued such firearms license, the chief of police into whose jurisdiction such card holder moves, and the commissioner of the Department of Criminal Justice Information Services of any change of address within 30 days of its occurrence.

Failure to notify any of these entities shall be cause for revocation or suspension of the license.



In lieu of notifying the FRB/DCJIS via certified mail, you may submit the form below to report your change of address.

All fields must be completed fully and accurately.

Notifications to police departments must still be made in writing via certified mail.

You will not receive a replacement license for this request.
Click to expand...

That’s a lie. H.4885 removed all that language.
 
The current portal doesn’t appear to have an address change notification option.

1733106975413.png
 
My sister moved to Maine a couple years ago and never notified. Her LTC is still good until the end of 2025. She wants to apply for a nonresident LTC but is worried since she never notified that she left. I would assume it’s fine and told her just to apply though it is a pain in the ass going to Chelsea
 
DW357 said:
My sister moved to Maine a couple years ago and never notified. Her LTC is still good until the end of 2025. She wants to apply for a nonresident LTC but is worried since she never notified that she left. I would assume it’s fine and told her just to apply though it is a pain in the ass going to Chelsea
Click to expand...
I think reasons like this, or perhaps in the future you decide to move back into MA and want to apply for an LTC again, if you didn’t submit the address change notification, you may give “them” a reason to deny or delay you, or just generally make things difficult. I can’t think of a sound reason not to notify them.
 
Cuz said:
The current portal doesn’t appear to have an address change notification option.

View attachment 941504
Click to expand...
The prior MGL never required a special form, sending copies of your current LTC, etc. All that stuff was made up by TPTB. A simple letter does the trick per that law.

No idea what the C. 140 re-write requires or doesn't require.
 
Cuz said:
I think reasons like this, or perhaps in the future you decide to move back into MA and want to apply for an LTC again, if you didn’t submit the address change notification, you may give “them” a reason to deny or delay you, or just generally make things difficult. I can’t think of a sound reason not to notify them.
Click to expand...
Makes sense. I suppose she could notify them now since they wouldn’t know the exact date she moved.
 
I was going to let my MA paramedic certification lapse, but a friend said that life is unpredictable and since I had fulfilled all of the requirements it made sense to renew. I did, although if circumstances require me to move back to MA I'll have bigger issues than looking for a job in EMS.

Len-2A Training said:
The OP stated the legal requirements. Wise to do and protects in case something ever changes in the OP's future.
Click to expand...
 
For having a TX LTC? Yes. While you still have to do a 4473 for a purchase from a FFL, they FFL doesn't need to do a NICS check as that is built into the check that the Department of Public Safety does. Some FFLs will give a discounted rate on inbound transfers if you have a LTC. It also protects you from an overzealous police officer wanting to charge you for not being licensed while being within 1,000 feet of a school. Some FFLs will give a discounted rate on inbound transfers if you have a LTC.

Some private gun clubs require a LTC for membership.

I currently haver NH, RI, MA, and PA licenses in addition to TX. I doubt I'll renew any but the Texas one when they expire. Between Constitutional Carry and the reciprocity TX has with other states, there's really no reason.

Sf Becket said:
Beside needing to have your home state LTC to obtain other states nonresident LTCs are there any other advantages?
Click to expand...
 
Garys said:
For having a TX LTC? Yes. While you still have to do a 4473 for a purchase from a FFL, they FFL doesn't need to do a NICS check as that is built into the check that the Department of Public Safety does. Some FFLs will give a discounted rate on inbound transfers if you have a LTC. It also protects you from an overzealous police officer wanting to charge you for not being licensed while being within 1,000 feet of a school. Some FFLs will give a discounted rate on inbound transfers if you have a LTC.
Click to expand...
Unless TX also has a 1000' law, no municipal or state police officer can enforce the federal law. And I can't imagine any AUSA prosecuting someone federally for this, it would take too many resources for a mickey-mouse violation.
 

Similar threads

MA resident and LTC holder who owns property in NH and confused
Replies
1
Views
109
Boghog1
Boghog1
Moving to MA (from CT) - what to bring, modify, sell?
Replies
15
Views
285
Picton
Picton
MA Firearms Roster questions / Maine to MA transfer
Replies
14
Views
331
maverickx31996
M
Business/dual resident MA LTC
Replies
16
Views
309
CrackPot
CrackPot
Private Sales in MA in 2024
Replies
5
Views
537
Veesionary
Veesionary
Back
Top Bottom