MA NFA Trust attorney

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Hey I was wondering if anyone had experiance with a local attorney who could help me out with setting up a gun trust (probably a trust for other things as well while I'm at it). Was also wondering if there were any gun friendly ones who would do it at any sort of discount (I hear they can get somewhat expensive).

If this is the wrong place for this request then forgive me!

I know there is a place (guntrustlawyer.com I think) in FL, but I'd prefer to deal face to face with someone in the MA/metrowest area.
 
Any estate/trust lawyer will work. It's not a special trust, just a revocable living trust. Just don't name it something like 'elendil004's big gun happy switch trust" or something. I found the Form 1 paperwork and the paperwork that goes with it significantly more difficult than the trust. The trust is cake, just picking names of people you know to be beneficiaries of the items within your trust.
 
CrossX is a member here and a attorney specializing in firearms laws. I'm sure he could establish a trust for you
 
guntrustlawyer.com which is a website operated by Apple Law Firm in Jacksonville, FL has arrangements with attorneys in many states. They provide the instrument for an attorney in your state and that local attorney goes over the trust as it pertains to your state. I found them to be quite helpful as stated in a previous post.
http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=61710&highlight=NFA+trust

When I started researching, I felt the same way about wanting to use someone local, but the attorneys I spoke with gave me ballpark figures between $600 to $1500 and they had executed only a fraction of the NFA Trusts that Apple Law Firm had. Looking back, I personally don't know what would have been different using one of the local attorneys as a matter of fact, the attorney I contacted in NH had looked over Apple's trust and felt it was such a good document, he chose to be an associate NH attorney for Apple. As I said, my experience was rather easy.

Also, it is rather worrisime to me when I hear of the ATF approving the paperwork for a transfer when they know the trust is probably invalid, but since they are not in the business of legal advice, they approve it. But if you go through with the transfer it now becomes an illegal transfer, and they can then proceed with enforcement action. Even paperwork violations when dealing with guns can be a felony.....then you don't get to EVER own a gun.
This situation was posted on Silencertallk.com forum on April 20th. and then the law sites like guntrustlawyer.com picked up on it as a selling point. I contacted Apple because I was concerned about the validity of my trust and and they responded:

"The one(NFA Trust in Question) that the ATF approved, named the same person as the Settlor, Beneficiary and Successor Trustee of the trust, which you can't do; therefore, the trust was invalid. Our trust is extremely different from a Quicken trust and there is no chance of it being invalid. We have produced trusts for lawyers, police officers, judges, FBI and Secret Service agents, and someone very hig up in the NRA, so I assure you that the trust is valid!"

So this response from Apple give me more piece of mind.

I apologize for the long post, but I was frustrated when I was looking for information about trusts and found it difficult to locate accurate information. I just want to help bridge that gap for those coming behind me.
 
"The one(NFA Trust in Question) that the ATF approved, named the same person as the Settlor, Beneficiary and Successor Trustee of the trust, which you can't do; therefore, the trust was invalid. Our trust is extremely different from a Quicken trust and there is no chance of it being invalid. We have produced trusts for lawyers, police officers, judges, FBI and Secret Service agents, and someone very hig up in the NRA, so I assure you that the trust is valid!"

What a line of crap. It's common sense you can't do that. If that was allowed you'd see people killing the trustee to reap the benefits of the trust.

My vote is still for using Quicken Willmaker. It's cheap, it's fast, it's reliable.
 
NFA Trusts ("Gun Trusts")

This is in reply to the prior posts regarding using Trusts to acquire NFA weapons. I am a Connecticut estate and trust lawyer with 36 years of experience and am a Fellow of the American College of Trust and Estate Counsel (www.actec.org). I'm also a lifelong shooter and am familiar with firearms laws. An NFA Trust differs from a "non-firearm" revocable trust in several important aspects. It is specifically designed to acquire and hold NFA weapons and other firearms and to let you lawfully pass them to your family members on your death without any public knowledge. It also can be drafted to allow you to designate family members who can shoot your NFA weapons without your being present. We are the Connecticut "partner law firm" of Atty. David Goldman's Apple Law Firm. We have reviewed the NFA Trust and designed one that specifically deals with issues of Connecticut law. IN NO WAY should gun owners use Legal Zoom, Willmaker or any other "generic" software-driven system to produce an NFA Trust. At worst, the trust can be invalid and result in confiscation of your guns and possible prosecution. They also can have "construction" problems, where it is not 100% clear what they mean. If anyone wants further information on Connecticut Gun Trusts, please send me an e-mail to jlcrown@ctgunlawyer.com or jlcrown@trustlawyer.com Sorry for the long post, but this is an important issue. Thank you for reading this. Jeff Crown
 
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