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Ma residents storing post 2016 in NH
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pewpewpew
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Sorry, I really just couldn't resist. To be fair I shat my pants as a result of this situation quite a bit as well. I think doing my own research and reading a lot on here has helped alleviate it somewhat
DEVOUREMENT
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Nobody knows anything.
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You can very well be the test case with this post. You just admitted having "illegal" firearms in the state by asking if you can store them elsewhere.
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You're thinking too much, your answer is in post # 2, this doesn't need its own thread.
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Only the magic 8 ball knows for sure.
MA laws only apply in MA
You would probably not find a NH FFL willing to sell something to a MA resident that does not meet MA specifications
But if you had a gun that was not MA whatever, there is nothing they can do about it if it is at your parents house in NH or anywhere else for that matter
If you had an upper that was not MA whatever, you can keep it in NH IMHO
You would probably not find a NH FFL willing to sell something to a MA resident that does not meet MA specifications
But if you had a gun that was not MA whatever, there is nothing they can do about it if it is at your parents house in NH or anywhere else for that matter
If you had an upper that was not MA whatever, you can keep it in NH IMHO
If you think there's a realistic chance of that ever happening you should just sell all your shit and get it over with.
Me? Right now if there was a vehicle for me to bet against any of it ever happening in any meaningful way I would be putting my entire net worth into it and making out like a bandit in 5 years. MA .gov is only exceeded in its shit laws by its incompetence.
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There needs to be an official Gun Law Pantshitter emoji/reaction.
1903Collector
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If they decide to come looking for it, and they think you have it, it won't matter where it is.
This actually belongs in the state law thread of the state you are looking to store them in.
We’ve seen this before where MA residents believe they’re subject to MA law when they are not in MA, and/or their property is not in MA. And it’s very sad, but the fact of the matter is that MA law does not apply to MA residents with regard to activities that they conduct in another state. Check the state law of the state that you are looking to possess, keep, let borrow, transfer, etc. firearms in.
We’ve seen this before where MA residents believe they’re subject to MA law when they are not in MA, and/or their property is not in MA. And it’s very sad, but the fact of the matter is that MA law does not apply to MA residents with regard to activities that they conduct in another state. Check the state law of the state that you are looking to possess, keep, let borrow, transfer, etc. firearms in.
chris_1001
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It does actually because MA doesn't have extraorbital authority over the rest of the country simply because someone possesses guns MA doesnt like in some other
state. Their odds of getting a warrant in NH, or any other free state "because we think joe blusinblah has a gun that is not legal in massachusetts and hes holdin out on us" is basically zero, absent some other crime going on.
An exception would be where a mass resident is subject to a MA domestic violence protective order, ERPO, etc. See MGL 209A §§ 3B; 7 and 140 §§ 131R-131Y both of which refer to "owns" and "ownership"
Hence the "absent some other crime" thing. DV ROs etc, murder, robbery, etc are always orbital and every state reciprocates all that stuff.
ETA: ERPOs btw are not 209As/DV RO. They don't fall under lautenberg BS (yet) .
1903Collector
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I'm sure your right but what I meant was if they come knocking on your door telling them your guns are in NH probably isn't going to be the end of that encounter, doubt they'll just take your word for it and go away.
Sure, i get that, but they still have nothing. What are they going to do get a warrant for your MA property based on speculation? Off of what? Off guns you never registered?
Most cop shops in MA are not going to be into this crap game you guys are afraid of without funding, absent some /other/ investigation. The "black vans r coming" stuff is nonsense. "Oh he was unhelpful so we declared him unsuitable. " yawn.
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1903Collector
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Don't put me in with this crowd, I decided a long time ago that IDGAF anymore but I also realize where we are.
What could MA try to pursue a warrant for though, even if there was some other crime going on, and the guns aren’t located in MA? I don’t understand how MA firearm possession laws could apply to firearms that are not located within the borders of MA, even if the person who legally possesses them is a resident of MA. Is there something I’m not thinking of?
