That is not 1 to 2 tons, lol. Few dudes and lift it.
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TJRaccoon
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Plus 1 on Toupin rigging. Professional, smart and dependable. I have used them in the past to move granite inspection tables in our Incoming Quality Control group.
Watching them move surface places taught me a lot about moving heavy objects. Small vertical movements, good dolly and think about what your doing.
Watching them move surface places taught me a lot about moving heavy objects. Small vertical movements, good dolly and think about what your doing.
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1 to 2 tons isn't bad. I unloaded a 4500lb shaper off of a trailer by myself with some 1" pipe and a toe jack. Once it was in the shop I was able to push it around with some machine skates I made myself for around $60.
Watching your video, I would be surprised if it was over a ton. If you can lift it with a jack or engine hoist you can make a skid to run between the legs and roll it around on pipe without a problem. Turning will be a pain, skates would be better for that.
With the skates I can push a bridgeport or a 13" south bend lathe around the shop with two fingers. You can see two of them in this picture. It's just ~3/4" of steel plate, some 20mm precision ground rod welded to the bottom, and four 6020 bearings I got off of ebay. I can lift the lathe and bridgeport high enough with a demo bar and wedges to get skates or pipes under it but the shaper needed the toe jack.
Watching your video, I would be surprised if it was over a ton. If you can lift it with a jack or engine hoist you can make a skid to run between the legs and roll it around on pipe without a problem. Turning will be a pain, skates would be better for that.
With the skates I can push a bridgeport or a 13" south bend lathe around the shop with two fingers. You can see two of them in this picture. It's just ~3/4" of steel plate, some 20mm precision ground rod welded to the bottom, and four 6020 bearings I got off of ebay. I can lift the lathe and bridgeport high enough with a demo bar and wedges to get skates or pipes under it but the shaper needed the toe jack.
Mesatchornug
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I would go to harbor freight and get a pique of dollies, then get some scraps of plywood to put on them. Have a friend or two help you lift one end onto a dolly. Chock its wheels and do the same at the other end. Roll it to its new location and unload.
Even this is more complicated than it needs to be, but will be plenty safe and effective.
And then you'll own a pair of dollies.
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nightpoison
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first, I'm obviously off on the weight, just going by someone else's information on that. I'm not really a good judge of those types of things. I attempted to lift the light end. yea F*** that noise. Don't see how its getting lifted by 2 people. Levers yes, jack yes, lift no idea how thats happening.
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I just watched your vid. Definitely a good floor jack and 1 helper. That is a very top heavy lathe.
And, keep it as low as possible.
And, keep it as low as possible.
Mesatchornug
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Option 1:
Forearm Forklift Moving Straps
Use the Forearm Forklift furniture moving straps to easily and safely carry heavy or bulky items. Great for moving furniture and appliances
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Option 2:
Put a weight-rated screw eye in the beam overhead, then use a block and tackle or come along to hoist one end
AHM
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I'm imagining two people in double radius-ulna casts
staring up at the hole in the living room floor;
the living room whose contents have just cascaded down on top of the lathe...
Mesatchornug
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For a real lathe, sure. This thing is like 650, maybe 1k lbs. I'm not a big dude (less so since covid) and I'm sure I could get that thing moved with a friend.
Half that max weight is 500#; two people with lifting straps is 250. A reasonably healthy adult should be able to get that up 6" onto a dolly.
That said, folks are tossing the idea of a floor jack around, and that is a great one too.
Edit: actually, I'll admit 250# deadlift might be an above average request. Tools it is...
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I just saw the YouTube video. Try a 6' long 2x4 about 6-8" under one of the end support arches (near the floor), and lift a little to give it a push in the direction you want it to go. It should slide a little bit at a time. A six pack...and your done!
Asaltweapon
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I think I've returned to HS looking at that old iron. Just paint it sky blue and roll me (and a joint) back into 1975.1 to 2 tons isn't bad. I unloaded a 4500lb shaper off of a trailer by myself with some 1" pipe and a toe jack. Once it was in the shop I was able to push it around with some machine skates I made myself for around $60.
Watching your video, I would be surprised if it was over a ton. If you can lift it with a jack or engine hoist you can make a skid to run between the legs and roll it around on pipe without a problem. Turning will be a pain, skates would be better for that.
With the skates I can push a bridgeport or a 13" south bend lathe around the shop with two fingers. You can see two of them in this picture. It's just ~3/4" of steel plate, some 20mm precision ground rod welded to the bottom, and four 6020 bearings I got off of ebay. I can lift the lathe and bridgeport high enough with a demo bar and wedges to get skates or pipes under it but the shaper needed the toe jack.
nightpoison
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I ended up doing some scavenging through the basement, found an old section of rail road rail and set up a quick lever with a 2x4. Lifted right off the ground not much of an issue. need to raiser the rail more to get the lathe higher off the ground, but moves easy. I'm going to run over to Sun belt and rent the machine rollers. Going to see if I can get a friend over to help spot and move it around, but I think thats the direction I'm going to go.
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Measure holes in the feet (used to lag the machine down.
Get 4 stem swivel casters at Harbor freight or Amazon with post.
Using bottle jack lift 1 end and install 2 of the casters.
Lower on to floor.
Jack other side and install casters.
Lower on to floor and roll it anywhere you want. Move it anytime you need to.
Moving by pipe you would jack it up. Put 4x4 under and lag machine to the 4x4. Then pipes under the 4x4s and move wherever.
Get 4 stem swivel casters at Harbor freight or Amazon with post.
Using bottle jack lift 1 end and install 2 of the casters.
Lower on to floor.
Jack other side and install casters.
Lower on to floor and roll it anywhere you want. Move it anytime you need to.
Moving by pipe you would jack it up. Put 4x4 under and lag machine to the 4x4. Then pipes under the 4x4s and move wherever.
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AHM
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Oh, it may be totally plausible.
When I saw the cable TV ad for those straps, I wanted a pair myself.
But I couldn't help thinking of (and sharing) the worst-case scenario...
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That looks like Reed (which also cast many lathes under different brands). The head stock, the legs all unbolt if you really needed to.
The "tombstone", the cast iron box with gears, it's very collectable and typically they were bolted on the tail stock of the lathe, not legs. Don't f*** up legs, those alone are like 2-300$ as scrap. Fags make tables out of them.
I have the lathe that made the lathes that made your lathe.
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AHM
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Unfortunately, last fall I bought a 4-in-1 Harbor Fraught hand dolly.
So I'ma make that work first.
Floor jack and a flat cart is all you need pipes aren't going to do it. If you get hung up your not that far. I would jack it from the beam and put a cart under one side then floor jack under leg brace your not going to break the cast unless you impact it
melly300
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Another vote for Toupin in Dracut. Very professional. We have used them many times moving very heavy, very delicate, and very expensive semiconductor manufacturing equipment. Never any problems and they are a great group of people.
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nightpoison
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wow, thanks for the offer. Figuring out when I can get someone over hear has a second pair of hands/spotter. I'll let you know If i need to take you up on that. Much appreciated
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