Nationwide Reciprocity for Concealed Carry Permits H.R. 38

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What are the odds of this passing?

H.R. 38, the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, "The right of self-defense shouldn't end simply because you cross the state line," said John Commerford, executive director of the NRA's congressional lobbying arm. "Passage of H.R. 38 — concealed carry reciprocity — would be the most monumental win for gun rights in Congress since 2005, when the Protection of Lawful Commerce and Arms Act was passed."

 
Even if it does pass, you're still getting arrested in NYC/NJ for carrying lol. Will they let you finally carry hollow points in NJ?
 
What are the odds of this passing?

Look at how many times it's (or bills like it have) been proposed in the past and there is your answer on the odds of it passing. Hint not very likely even with this Congress.
 
What are the odds of this passing?



Nil, just like every other time this, or its twin, is floated.
 
I actually think this might pass. Maybe not in this form. But shit, things are rolling in the right direction. And we’ve got almost 4 full years left.
No, really there are less than two years. Midterm loss for Republicans can lead to loss of House and or Senate control. Next midterm election is November 3, 2026.
 
What are the odds of this passing?



None.

Why in the WORLD would you think that Congress would pass any controversial legislation this session? Seriously, why would you think that is possible?

Republicans hold a 3 seat edge in the House of Representatives (218 v 215). Republicans hold a 6 seat majority in the Senate (53 v 47), but the Senate requires 60 votes to end a filibuster.

So, once again, I have to ask you why in the WORLD would you think it possible for controversial pro-gun legislation to get passed this session?

It is not that this bill has low chances of passing. It has ZERO chance of passing. It will never get out of committee in either house of Congress.
 
None.

Why in the WORLD would you think that Congress would pass any controversial legislation this session? Seriously, why would you think that is possible?

Republicans hold a 3 seat edge in the House of Representatives (218 v 215). Republicans hold a 6 seat majority in the Senate (53 v 47), but the Senate requires 60 votes to end a filibuster.

So, once again, I have to ask you why in the WORLD would you think it possible for controversial pro-gun legislation to get passed this session?

It is not that this bill has low chances of passing. It has ZERO chance of passing. It will never get out of committee in either house of Congress.

I never said it was or wasn't possible. I just asked what the odds were of it passing.
 
I never said it was or wasn't possible. I just asked what the odds were of it passing.
Did you not realize that the Republicans have a razor thin majority in both houses of Congress and not enough to stop a filibuster in the Senate?

At the start of each session, legislators on both sides submit a bunch of bills that they know will go nowhere. They do this because this allows them to pander to a particular group of their voters. That’s what this is. It will never get out of committee.

Given the razor thin majority that the Republicans have in Congress, no controversial bill even come to a floor vote, let alone get passed. In addition, it is questionable whether such a bill would be constitutional.
 
You do not want this to pass. Any legal basis for this to work could also be abused by both parties for other things. We need SCOTUS to rule licensing to be unconstitutional.
 
Did you not realize that the Republicans have a razor thin majority in both houses of Congress and not enough to stop a filibuster in the Senate?

At the start of each session, legislators on both sides submit a bunch of bills that they know will go nowhere. They do this because this allows them to pander to a particular group of their voters. That’s what this is. It will never get out of committee.

Given the razor thin majority that the Republicans have in Congress, no controversial bill even come to a floor vote, let alone get passed. In addition, it is questionable whether such a bill would be constitutional.
Thanks for the civics lesson. You just don't quit, do you?
 
I don't like the feds being involved in reciprocity at all.

Normally I would agree but protecting our rights is one of the few legitimate functions of the fed govt.

I'd love to see the fed say 'all gun laws are violations of 2A' but chances are this one's going to need to be done with additive laws. It's completely retarded either way I'm just saying this is how it would probably happen.
 
Not going to happen. Heller already found shall issue licensing to be constitutional.
Not quite. In Heller, licensing was found to be not relevant to the case before the court, so it was allowed to stand. They didn't rule on it because the plaintiff didn't ask them to.

Respondent conceded at oral argument that he does not “have a problem with … licensing” and that the District’s law is permissible so long as it is “not enforced in an arbitrary and capricious manner.” Tr. of Oral Arg. 74–75. We therefore assume that petitioners’ issuance of a license will satisfy respondent’s prayer for relief and do not address the licensing requirement.
 
Did you not realize that the Republicans have a razor thin majority in both houses of Congress and not enough to stop a filibuster in the Senate?

At the start of each session, legislators on both sides submit a bunch of bills that they know will go nowhere. They do this because this allows them to pander to a particular group of their voters. That’s what this is. It will never get out of committee.

Given the razor thin majority that the Republicans have in Congress, no controversial bill even come to a floor vote, let alone get passed. In addition, it is questionable whether such a bill would be constitutional.

If they had a supermajority, it still wouldn't be put up for a vote. # of GOP legislators is irrelevant. They don't want a vote. Period.
 
As things sit now, I think there is a "fair to middlin'" chance of this passing. Meaning that if all goes well, the slim majority in both houses will get it through.

However, like anytime a pro gun bill comes up, some leftist wind up toy will shoot up a bunch of civilians and flip the narrative.
 
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