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I hope this hasn't been asked to death already. My wife just got her LTC. My question is: I have bought a few concealable guns I got the Ruger LCR in .38 and the recoil is pretty snappy. So I got the Ruger LC9 and that gun felt like it was going to leap out of your hand. So I got a Kahr PM9 and while better than the LC9 . Possibly because of a better trigger and being totally surprised when it goes off. Either way these guns that I thought would be a great gun for her,but all seem a little stout recoil wise. I have never shot anything between a 9mm and a .22 so I was wondering if there was much difference in a .380 or .32 I am leaning towards a .380 for her but I was wondering if the kick was substantially different or just a little lighter and what would be some recommendations in .380 ....thank you for your time....Jason
 
TBH she most likely will not like a .380. most .380s are snappier than you'd expect unless she wants to go with something like a beretta 84 or a heavy-ass PPK. and who wants a PPK?

stick to 9mm or have her try out the S&W airweights in .38, the +P speer gold dot short barrel rounds, they nasty, yo.
 
Thanks Atiila, I haven't shot a .380 so I didn't know if it was like a strong .22 feel but apparently it's not the case. I know a 9mm out of my g19 feels like a .22 compared to a 9mm in the LC9 , might have to find her a gun with a little more substance to it. Thanks for the reply
 
Have you tried target wadcutters in the LCR, they are light recoil and work quite well for defense. Can she shoot 5 rounds of the LCR on target, even if it hurts, if so maybe a lcr 22 for practice. The concealable 380's are hard to shoot and control and won't be an improvement. Maybe go up a size in 9mm, something like an M&P9c or Ruger sr9c.
 
in addition to it being snappy in the small assortment of guns, there's just not much to choose from. you have some options like a bersa, PPK, makarov, two different sigs (though the P238 is nice!), and then the really nice stuff like a colt mustang.

a glock 19 or 26 would be an excellent choice, but that's my opinion. going to have to take the lady out shooting a bunch of different stuff to see what works for her.
 
Thanks guys, I haven't had her shoot the LCR yet because I went to the crimson trace grips on it . Nice to have the laser but the stockers do a lot better job at protecting your hands. I do like the idea of the LCR in .22 and I would love to add a g26 to the stables. Very sound advise
 
I hope this hasn't been asked to death already. My wife just got her LTC. My question is: I have bought a few concealable guns I got the Ruger LCR in .38 and the recoil is pretty snappy. So I got the Ruger LC9 and that gun felt like it was going to leap out of your hand. So I got a Kahr PM9 and while better than the LC9 . Possibly because of a better trigger and being totally surprised when it goes off. Either way these guns that I thought would be a great gun for her,but all seem a little stout recoil wise. I have never shot anything between a 9mm and a .22 so I was wondering if there was much difference in a .380 or .32 I am leaning towards a .380 for her but I was wondering if the kick was substantially different or just a little lighter and what would be some recommendations in .380 ....thank you for your time....Jason


the less gun weigh the more you feel it jumping out of your hands.
 
TBH she most likely will not like a .380. most .380s are snappier than you'd expect unless she wants to go with something like a beretta 84 or a heavy-ass PPK. and who wants a PPK?

stick to 9mm or have her try out the S&W airweights in .38, the +P speer gold dot short barrel rounds, they nasty, yo.

Me. Even as heavy as it is, I still find it to be snappier than my 9mms, but I don't shoot it as much.

Maybe practice more with the PM9 and she'll get more comfortable. Getting a better feel for when the trigger is going to break should help.
 
I hope this hasn't been asked to death already. My wife just got her LTC. My question is: I have bought a few concealable guns I got the Ruger LCR in .38 and the recoil is pretty snappy. So I got the Ruger LC9 and that gun felt like it was going to leap out of your hand. So I got a Kahr PM9 and while better than the LC9 . Possibly because of a better trigger and being totally surprised when it goes off. Either way these guns that I thought would be a great gun for her,but all seem a little stout recoil wise. I have never shot anything between a 9mm and a .22 so I was wondering if there was much difference in a .380 or .32 I am leaning towards a .380 for her but I was wondering if the kick was substantially different or just a little lighter and what would be some recommendations in .380 ....thank you for your time....Jason


Your more than welcome to try out one of my Kahr p380's. Less recoil than the pm9 and not as snappy.
 
My suggestion (which went rather long winded and turned into general musings on the subject):

Get her comfortable with a full-sized 9 mm first. Once she can comfortably handle that (and that may be 5 minutes or 5 months), put a bunch of smaller guns on the bench and let her put a magazine or cylinder through each of them. Warn her that they aren't supposed to be comfortable guns - she won't LIKE them compared to the full size gun, and that's okay. Remind her that she is looking for a gun she can control and will consent to practice with, not a gun that is super comfortable to shoot.

We can give you some general direction, but especially with the little guns, the perceived recoil will vary wildly from person to person.

Listen to her feedback. If none of your existing guns is to her liking, come back and tell us what she said about the guns she did try. Then we might be able to point you in a good direction.

Backing up even farther...particularly with new shooters who want to carry, and even more so with women (who tend to feel the recoil more and have a harder time concealing) - I encourage them to get a first gun, then a first carry gun, and then worry about the perfect gun.

First gun: Something big enough to soak up the recoil, with proper sights. Generally, a full size 9 or beefy .357 (no snubbies!). Learn to shoot. Shooting it will be relatively pleasant and they can develop a level of accuracy with it that builds confidence. Such guns will do nicely as a "house gun" or can always be sold off to finance the first carry gun if necessary.

First carry gun: Criterion #1: Don't buy a POS. Criterion #2: Get a gun that is small enough that you will actually carry it. Asking most women to jump right into CC a Glock 26 or the like is a bad idea - with current women's fashions, this is GENERALLY going to mean an entirely new wardrobe. There are of course exceptions to this, but if she's wearing women's jeans and the relatively clingy and/or lightweight fabrics that most tops are made of, just where is the gun supposed to go? Her yoga pants will not accommodate a gun belt. If the gun is too big, it will stress her back, become a burden, and make CC such a miserable experience that she gives up. If her personal taste and career mean that her closet is full of cargo pants and unisex-type tshirts, then yay for her, she won't need to compromise nearly as much and learning to carry should be a lot easier. But that's not the majority of women I meet.

Start small. I find that something the size of an LCP or P32/P3AT is generally a reasonable size to conceal under "fashionable" women's clothing. She will have to make some compromises, but not so many that she is discouraged.

Is .32 or .380 a great defensive caliber? Hell no. But neither is .xx BIGBORE if it's sitting in your safe while you are in a parking lot with a mugger. Remember, if you KNEW there was going to be a fight, you'd stay home or bring a rifle. In the end, most handguns are not what you want when your life is on the line, but we carry handguns because walking around with slung rifles is impractical and socially gauche for most of us. It's better to have something than nothing.

Have her get used to carrying. If, once she is acclimated to carrying, she wants to step up in capacity or caliber, then she can go shopping and she'll have the shooting and carrying experience necessary to push the compromise in firepower versus practicality as far as she can.
 
Why people hating on ppk? I bought one new 4 years ago and love it! I can hit the target very easily at 20 yards within a 8" group not bad for such a small gun. Not to mention never ever had any feed problems or failure to fires. And last but not least James Bond always carried a ppk.
 
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