New Stag Model 4

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Hello everyone. I've been quiet for a little while after all the great feedback I got here concerning my magazine question for the S&W M&P15-22 I won. Since then, I've been saving the money to make my first AR purchase and I did that a couple of weeks ago: a new Stag Arms Model 4, manufactured in 2013. It has the 20" heavy profile chrome-moly barrel with the pinned compensator and the standard A2 model buttstock. The upper receiver has a detachable carrying handle with integral peep sights that can be removed, leaving a flat top of picatinny rail.

I decided on the heavy barreled variant because I cut my teeth in riflery as a .22 rimfire bolt-action competitive shooter and I want to get familiar with the AR platform with a more "target oriented" rifle. The weight is about 8.5 pounds - a little on the heavy side I suppose - but I actually *like* that given my past experience. The rifle comes to point of aim very naturally and it's really stable in the offhand position even without a sling, at least for me.

Because of all the snow and other concerns I haven't had a chance to get it to the range for a live fire exercise. The first time I do (which hopefully will be very soon) I'll be back here posting pictures and targets. In keeping with my misspent youth training, I'm going to begin my time with this rifle using the iron sights and get good and comfortable with them first. Later on I'll be thinking about a few accessories/optics but I'm very pleased with the base rifle so far after doing the initial takedown/cleaning/reassembly/dry firing exercises. The trigger is a little heavy but at least it breaks pretty cleanly. That might be something I look into changing, in the fullness of time.

I'll have some pictures and notes about what I think about the quality of construction of the rifle within the next 48 hours. My first impressions are very positive. There's a little bit of play between the upper and lower but it's nothing excessive and everyone tells me: "That's normal to better than normal." Otherwise the fit, finish and overall heft and quality of the rifle are speaking very well for themselves. I'm pretty stoked.

I'm liking it in a big way and now I'm officially a member of the AR Platform Owners Association. :)

[Update: Here's a picture of it in the Stag case with the 10 round factory magazine, minus the lock/manual/etc. froufrou. The pic's a little blurry, there will be better ones.]

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Congrats. I have a Stag lefty lower and Stag uppers in 5.56 and 6.8 SPC (for hunting). Have no other ARs, so nothing to compare the Stag to, but no issues. I had to use Weaver high (see thru) scope mounts on the 6.8 upper to get the scope high enough. Good luck with the rifle. Jack.
 
Congrats. I have a Stag lefty lower and Stag uppers in 5.56 and 6.8 SPC (for hunting). Have no other ARs, so...

I'm looking forward to it and so is my father, who wants to know how it runs because he's interested in a left hand version for himself. It's funny - I'm left handed in terms of writing but I have *always* thrown and shot right-handed. If I pick up a pen with my right hand it feels strange, and if I try to shoot left-shoulder it *also* feels weird and always has, so I figure my wiring is thoroughly mixed up. :) On the other hand, he is *very* strongly left hand dominant for everything. So if this Stag proves itself well, we'll be looking into one of their left handed models. And they're under 100 miles from where I live, which I also like. I had other options, but I liked the barrel on this gun and I thought I'd rather Stag get my business this time around.
 
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Nixie

Congratulations on the rifle. As an ex-bulls eye shooter, the extra sight radius will probably work great for you. I love my old A2 style ARs.

Re a left handed rifle for your dad, I'd stay away from them. I'm a left handed shooter who has been shooting ARs for 20 years. With the addition of an ambi selector lever ($25) and an ambi mag release ($50) he can run a standard gun as well as a right handed person. The selector is really the only thing he should have. I say this because one of the beautiful things about the AR is parts interchangability. If he gets a LH gun he is locked into proprietary parts for a number of items.

I've never had any problems, actually Ive never even noticed the cases coming across my face. Its so fast, you literally can't see it.

Don
 
Don (and everyone else too!) thanks for the advice and commentary. That's part of the reason I decided to go ahead and buy this Model 4 completely right handed and let him try shooting it first, and see how he gets along with it. It's easy enough to add the ambi. controls and if he doesn't mind the right side ejection then the issue will be settled and we'll just go with another "standard" AR for him, using some ambi. accessories.

I really do like the heavier/longer barrel on this rifle and the overall weight isn't anything uncomfortable for me - it weighs about the same as my RWS 48 air rifle even with a loaded 10 round magazine in it! It's very stable, it feels good. If I decide to mount an optic it won't get much heavier because I'll also be removing/swapping out the carrying handle and standard rear sights. Most importantly, even with the standard A2 stock, he length of pull is Very Close to what I feel most comfortable with - in a lot of ways that's more important for me in terms of comfort than a half pound or pound of weight, particularly with a sling on it. I bought the RWS 48 when I decided to dip my toes back into shooting around 7 years ago, and I chose that gun (aside from the quality, of course) because it reminded me so much of the rifles I learned to shoot with, in terms of heft and balance. So this one is definitely what I wanted from my first AR. Everybody's mileage varies but that's the beauty of the platform.

My Dad likes it too, he's a big man at 6'1 and about 250 so he really doesn't like guns that feel like toys. I think if the right side ejection doesn't bug him too much we'll wind up doing something like you suggest.

I hope to get this gun to the range later this coming week and really get familiar with it and get some target pics. back for everyone to see. I have the feeling it's going to do very well indeed.

Thanks again! There were a lot of factors that went into the decision to buy it, including my desire to support AR manufacturers like Stag Arms. I think it was a good choice.
 
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I don't know if you know this, but about 4 days before the CT gun ban went into effect a bunch of us in CT got a heads up on what the bill was going to contain, namely language that effectively would outlaw the AR15 as a semi-auto firearm with a detachable magazine. Stag arms, already running 3 shifts began shipping guns and lowers directly to CT dealers. For 3 or 4 days they pushed all of their production into CT. That warms the cockles of my heart.

Re the A2 stock. You can get a stock that looks cooler, but I've never used a stock that actually shot any better. I like them.
 
No I didn't know about that in particular but my feeling is that if you don't support good manufacturers near where you live, you'll wind up being very sorry when they leave. I did some research about Stag Arms before buying the rifle and I *do* know that they also took a full day out of their production schedule to take their employees to testify against the legislation. Not just the CEO and two lawyers, they shut production down and brought everyone along. I couldn't think of any reason not to buy one of their rifles this time around. They offer a lifetime warranty, their "infinite round" barrel warranty and I've already been in touch with their customer service department with a mundane question and they got back to me right away with a very good answer. If you don't support manufacturers like that then hey, there are plenty of creeks we'll be up without a paddle, eventually.

And yes, it so happens that the A2 stock fits me well, it fits tightly on this gun, and it has that cool storage compartment for a Snickers bar (a-la Jeff Quinn and his review of the AR-180B back in 2002) or whatever else you can fit in there. :) So there's not much to gripe about there, at least for me.

Didn't mean this to turn into a plug for Stag Arms but it's not such a bad thing. :)
 
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I just ordered a model 4 A2 style on Thursday., Should be in this week sometime. I can't wait to pick it up. I might dress it up a little as the funds permit but I want a Windham .308 as well..
 
I just ordered a model 4 A2 style on Thursday., Should be in this week sometime. I can't wait to pick it up. I might dress it up a little as the funds permit but I want a Windham .308 as well..

Where did you order it from?

One other thing. Although Stag has only been around since 2003, their history goes back much farther. Stag was started by Mark Malkowski, the son of Ted Malkowski. Why is this significant? Because Ted is the founder and owner of Continental Machine and Tool. CMT has been an OEM to the AR15 wholesale market for 30 years. They have produced parts for colt since the 70s. Mark worked for his dad before starting Stag, which is located right next door to CMT.
 
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