NY Man Arrested For Hoarding Gas

[kman]

I'm posting this here because I remember a few months ago we talked about dispensing gasoline into green metal jerry cans and if you could be arrested. This guy sounded a little too over the top but yeah, I guess you can still be arrested for it.

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/police-state-ny-man-arrested-for-hoarding-gas/

 

[Climbnsink]

Arrested for self help. How dare he/sarcasm

 

[Archilochus]

I'd guess he got busted for using those stupid buckets for gas. Forgetting all the CARB idiocy, there's a reason fuel containers are "DOT approved".

 

[kman]

180 gallons is kinda crazy. I wonder if he was planning on selling it.

 

[Tim L]

He had no cans and improvised, I'm ok with it.

 

[KBCraig]

180 gallons is kinda crazy. I wonder if he was planning on selling it.

His neighbors had given him money to make a gas run for them.

He and the station owner were officially cited for transport in unapproved containers, but it really was a case of "buying more gas than we think you should". The station owner wasn't even a party to it.

Homer buckets are HDPE, perfectly safe for transporting gasoline. I'd rather have sealed buckets in my van than gasoline vapors.

 

[pernox]

180 gallons is kinda crazy. I wonder if he was planning on selling it.

According to investigators, Yunus Latif, of Richmond Hill, collected money from his neighbors, bought gas at a Valero station almost 80 miles away in Orange and planned to bring it back to his neighborhood, where they had no power and gas.

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[Retired-LEO]

I'd guess he got busted for using those stupid buckets for gas. Forgetting all the CARB idiocy, there's a reason fuel containers are "DOT approved".

+1

 

[el duderino]

Im not seeing a crime here, or did stupidity finally get outlawed?

 

[mclina]

Im not seeing a crime here, or did stupidity finally get outlawed?

I thought stupidity was legally mandated, or is that just in MA?

 

[Mrs. Zbomb]

All I can think of when reading this thread is It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

 

[richc]

My wife has accused me of the same on many occasions.

 

[xtry51]

How dare he be a helpful neighbor and transport gasoline in perfectly safe, sealed containers

Yup land of the free.

 

[BenDover]

Exactly. Homer buckets are HDPE which is the same material the red jugs are made from. The lid seal is probably buna-n which is ok with gas as well. When sealed I'm sure the buckets release less vapor than a typical gas can. I don't think I've ever had a plastic pos red gas can not drip fuel all over the place....they can't be air tight. I have seen a homer bucket hold a vacuum for months.

NY is just FD!

[QzUOTE=xtry51;2664074]How dare he be a helpful neighbor and transport gasoline in perfectly safe, sealed containers

Yup land of the free.[/QUOTE]

 

[Archilochus]

There's more to it than just if the plastic material is OK. Imagine an accident scene with a small fire. Firemen / EMT's show up and see a bunch of dogfood containers or whatnot in the back of the car - so they figure no problem there....

BOOOM

 

[BenDover]

Having a carload of 5 gallon jerry cans vs homer buckets is not gonna matter much in an accident. Q: What are fuel tanks made of these days? A: HDPE. If you drive a Honda Fit you are literally sitting on top of what amounts to a jerry can!

There's more to it than just if the plastic material is OK. Imagine an accident scene with a small fire. Firemen / EMT's show up and see a bunch of dogfood containers or whatnot in the back of the car - so they figure no problem there....

BOOOM

 

[Gidge]

How dare he be a helpful neighbor and transport gasoline in perfectly safe, sealed containers

Yup land of the free.

+1

 

[WanMan99]

I think you should be able to buy whatever quantity you want if you have the money... Can't believe there is a law on the books....
150 gallons = over 1200 lbs... Hope he had good springs in that vehicle.

 

[namedpipes]

It crossed my mind to buy a bu.ch of 5gal gas cans, fill them and drive them down to nyc to sell @ $120 per can.

If I could fit maybe 50 cans in my truck, I'd clear $3500 even paying for the gas and the can. Turn around and do it again!


Sent from my chimney using smoke signals.

 

[Climbnsink]

There's more to it than just if the plastic material is OK. Imagine an accident scene with a small fire. Firemen / EMT's show up and see a bunch of dogfood containers or whatnot in the back of the car - so they figure no problem there....

BOOOM

Nope. They are punishing him for helping himself. And being arrogant enough to go 80 miles from where he belongs. There might be a safety issue, but that isnt why they charged him.

 

[Archilochus]

Having a carload of 5 gallon jerry cans vs homer buckets is not gonna matter much in an accident. Q: What are fuel tanks made of these days? A: HDPE. If you drive a Honda Fit you are literally sitting on top of what amounts to a jerry can!

What I was getting at was the responders seeing identifiable fuel containers, rather than just some generic buckets.

 

[BenDover]

Ya, these days that dude is lucky they didn't send him on a one way ticket to Gitmo for trying to blow up a bridge or something.

What I was getting at was the responders seeing identifiable fuel containers, rather than just some generic buckets.

 

[KBCraig]

150 gallons = over 1200 lbs... Hope he had good springs in that vehicle.

I believe it was 120 gallons. Regardless, gasoline is only 6.073 pounds per gallon; even 150 gallons would only be 911 pounds, plus tare weight.

 

[Archilochus]

Ya, these days that dude is lucky they didn't send him on a one way ticket to Gitmo for trying to blow up a bridge or something.

Don't give 'em any ideas!

 

[rommel]

Additionally, anything over 119 gallons and he would need haz mat endorsement on his license and the vehicle to be properly placarded and he would need shipping papers. Bulk gasoline would also need to be transported in a dot certified container "ie" dot306 with current vapor test. I imagine he is going to have some seriously hefty fines for this stunt. Regardless, it was stupid and dangerouus to a lot of people.

 

[OB1Kenobi]

How dare he be a helpful neighbor and transport gasoline in perfectly safe, sealed containers

Yup land of the free.

+1.

 

[garandman]

/Homer buckets are HDPE, perfectly safe for transporting gasoline. I'd rather have sealed buckets in my van than gasoline vapors.

Except that with warming gas in those buckets, you'd have both. Ever heard of fuel air explosives? He was a rolling Fougasse and despite his noble intentions, I wouldn't want to be driving in traffic with him.

BTW the website you linked copied the article verbatim from an NBC website. Guess outing the Feds means you don't have to obey any copyright laws.

 

[jakes01234]

I was talking to a friend that has been delivering gas down in nj. He was telling me the trucks get a police escort to the stations and people are there filling up paint cans, water bottles, and anything that will hold a liquid. He was told by the state police if a vehicle or anybody tries to stop you run them over.
He also told me the guy he drove down there following had half a truck (4600 gallons) taken from the police. They told the driver its a state of emergency they can take it with him driving or one of there own its his choice. So he drove and dropped off the gas at there destination of choice.

While he was talking to the station owner he told him 8600 lasts 5 to 6 hours. People are using it to sleep in there cars to stay warm.
If i lost all my stuff and didnt have family or anything im pretty sure i would use my gas to get the hell out of there.. i can sleep in my car in alot nicer, warmer places..

 

[MAGG]

All I can think of when reading this thread is It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia