Opinions on 9MM AR's

I have a dedicated AR in 9mm. Its a sewing machine inside 50 yards, very accurate and very little recoil. Past 50 yards it gets dicey, past 100 and dont bother. Usually expensive to buy/build out right, preban mags exist, though a little tough to find. Cheap to feed. Fun to shoot, never heard any complaints. Its not a long range weapon, and not a thumper - but still great fun IMO.
 
Just in the few years I have been following I have seen a few people build them up or purchase them and then they hit the classifieds within a couple months to a year later. So if that has any meaning... maybe they are more fun to build think about then actually use/shoot.

For a fun carbine I got the 995TS from Hi Point - $210 bucks out the door and I get the same end result a 9mm rifle.
 
I could understand that ^^. If I really wanted an AR in 223 - but somehow along the way got it in my head to get it in 9mm - and I had no other rifles in my stable - I too would end up dissapointed. But I love mine for what it is - a cheap to feed plinker with limited range - fine by me. I have other EBR for other purposes - big caliber thumpers for distance and bruising my shoulder, and the usual variety for general use.

ETA: To sum up, if this is your first foray into ARs - a 9mm may very well leave you wanting more.
 
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Im toying with idea of picking up a Thureon 9mm AR style carbine. These work from an open bolt I believe and look like fun. I understand they make them to be magazine specific so if you run glocks, glock mags will fit. UZI too and other makers but you cant interchange. Head to the website for more accurate info but look at the many you tube videos as well. Price wasn't out of line.
 
They're a lot of fun. Get one that takes Sten mags and you'll have an unlimited supply of pre-bans.
 
I have a preban Colt AR in 9mm and put the Slide Fire stock on it. It is a blast to shoot.

It takes preban Uzi mags which are plentiful and inexpensive.
 
With the availability of .22lr ARs, I don't see the point of a 9mm AR. Get a .22 lr for cheap plinking and keep your .223 for social occasions.
 
I bought all the parts to put one together 3 years ago, never got around to it, and sold everything here in the classifieds cheap. Every 6 months or so, I see something about a 9mm AR and it makes me want one again. The Lonewolf Glock lower looks cool, and I almost talked myself into buying one to tinker with, but...

M1911 said:
With the availability of .22lr ARs, I don't see the point of a 9mm AR. Get a .22 lr for cheap plinking and keep your .223 for social occasions.
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...this is the best piece of advice I have come across in one of these discussions. Thank you talking sense into me for now.
 
There is also the Just Right carbine which takes Glock mags and standard AR parts. Been also thinking about a 9mm carbine, not too many options out there.
 
How long ago was this? Why was the recent group buy considerably higher?

Dirtypacman said:
Just in the few years I have been following I have seen a few people build them up or purchase them and then they hit the classifieds within a couple months to a year later. So if that has any meaning... maybe they are more fun to build think about then actually use/shoot.

For a fun carbine I got the 995TS from Hi Point - $210 bucks out the door and I get the same end result a 9mm rifle.
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greencobra said:
Im toying with idea of picking up a Thureon 9mm AR style carbine. These work from an open bolt I believe and look like fun. I understand they make them to be magazine specific so if you run glocks, glock mags will fit. UZI too and other makers but you cant interchange. Head to the website for more accurate info but look at the many you tube videos as well. Price wasn't out of line.
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How much do those Thureon Defense guns go for? Ive been curious for a while....
 
**DRB** said:
How much do those Thureon Defense guns go for? Ive been curious for a while....
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I just picked one up from the only dealer in Mass. I saw a base model for $729 and change. I got the model with a muzzle brake and a railed gas block (blowback operation so the gas block is totally non-functional besides adding more rail space). That dinged the wallet a little bit more. Then throw in sales tax and you're looking at a price somewhere close to a dedicated 9MM AR.

The biggest advantage of the TD carbine is that it takes any 9MM Glock magazine...from G26's to 33 rounders. Since I've already got a couple Glocks, along with a bunch of hi-caps, I figure I can get a system going. A second advantage would be the parts commonality with AR15s. I believe TD's utilize AR15 trigger groups, pistol grips, and buffer/stocks.

There are only a couple very minor issues I have with TD carbines. Each carbine comes with rails but they're not that great and they're not level with the receiver. I hear they're working on producing an attachable monolithic rail. It should be quite easy for them since the rails are screwed onto the hand guards. Secondly, you get a lot of smoke and crap coming out of the ejection port and into your face because of the blowback operation. I'm sure the effect is amplified if you're using certain types of economy ammunition. It's not a big deal to me but some people may find that a nuisance.

Anyways, those are my preliminary observations after having owned the TD for less than a month.
 
A1850 said:
How long ago was this? Why was the recent group buy considerably higher?
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Ok I verified the numbers and the original buy was $217 then tax so around $224
I bought couple extra mags with tax for 34.50
Then transfer fee I don't remember $20-25 bucks I can't remember

Hope that clarifies the question on cost.
 
used to have an olympic that used sten mags. nice rifle but it was a dirty, filthy pig. you do not want sten mags, you want uzi mags, let me tell you that right now. i don't have experience with the glock mag rifles but you'll be limited to 17 round hi-caps at best unless you want to break your wallet and find pre-ban SUPER baby-killer mags instead of the regular infant-wounding 17 rounders. people always trash olympic but the rifle i owned ran flawlessly (aside from ancient mag issues that is) the entire time i owned it.

kind of wish i never got rid of it, but it was such a bitch to clean i hated breaking it down and cleaning it. ugh. snag a colt if you can. uzi mags are the way to go. cheap, plentiful, pre-ban (sigh) hi-caps available, and they aren't too bad to load. there are also hahn mag blocks for lowers that accept uzi mags but you need an upper capable of handling them--the olympic uppers do not do uzi mags.
 
I bought a preban 9mm colt for about $850 last summer. It's a lot of fun, but I've yet to find other magazines not made by colt that work in it.
 
atilla said:
used to have an olympic that used sten mags. nice rifle but it was a dirty, filthy pig. you do not want sten mags, you want uzi mags, let me tell you that right now. i don't have experience with the glock mag rifles but you'll be limited to 17 round hi-caps at best unless you want to break your wallet and find pre-ban SUPER baby-killer mags instead of the regular infant-wounding 17 rounders. people always trash olympic but the rifle i owned ran flawlessly (aside from ancient mag issues that is) the entire time i owned it.

kind of wish i never got rid of it, but it was such a bitch to clean i hated breaking it down and cleaning it. ugh. snag a colt if you can. uzi mags are the way to go. cheap, plentiful, pre-ban (sigh) hi-caps available, and they aren't too bad to load. there are also hahn mag blocks for lowers that accept uzi mags but you need an upper capable of handling them--the olympic uppers do not do uzi mags.
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Well, I know it's a touchy subject but you could always get extensions for your pre-ban 17 rounders. The most I could find were +10s. That gets you to semi-super baby-killer at least.
 
I have a Suomi 31 9mm that weighs a ton but has 30rnd mags and a 70 rnd drum! I love it. you can get them if you look hard enough.
 

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