Pick one. M&p9,Glock 17, P99?

[thebusinessend]

So I have been looking at these three guns. This will be my first gun purchase. All are similar in size for the most part. But pricing isnt to far off unless your getting a gen3 glock in MA. So from a MA resident perspective accounting for the purchase of the glock would have to be used. The price should be justfied along with reliablity, accuracy and overall feel of the pistol.

Which one of these three would you purchase tomorrow?
S&W M&P9, Glock 17 "gen 3", Walther p99 9mm.

 

[Gonzo]

Which one is more comfortable with you?

I'd go with the S&W, but that's just me.

 

[wolf223]

get the glock IF you have the cash for it ($600 to 700 is what I see them for); 3rd Gen Glocks are harder to come bye. the other two you can buy any time.

IF money is a factor, i'd go with M&P....

 

[M1911]

M&P or Glock. With the Glock 17, you can get pre-ban large capacity magazines, but the grip is a bit big for me and the trigger sucks.

The M&P trigger can be greatly improved with a cheap trigger job, and the interchangeable backstraps lets you tailor it to your hand size.

I've got zero interest in the Walther.

 

[thebusinessend]

yea I am trying to buy a house at the moment as well so I dont want to spend a ton of cash on a pistol, or I would buy a sig. So I want something that will hold me over till I can afford one. I just want something that is reliable easy to use. Good for the range and home self defense. But I figured if getting say the glock17 over the M&P was a big difference. I would spend the extra 1-2 hundred and get a gun I will keep.
I like the feel of the M&P and the glock both fit my hand nice and I am comfortable with the recoil. I haven't shot the P99 but it looks appealing. It has the de-cocker function and if I could get one with the AS trigger mode that would be nice. but I heard they don't have the AS trigger available in MA. but I could be wrong on that one.

 

[Mass-diver]

If you are not going to carry or use the pistol for HD, then get the M&P. I like how the M&Ps feel in my hand (and you can change backstraps). However, you will stuck with 10 round mags (no problem if its a range gun).

But, if want pre-ban hi-cap mags, go with the glock (I prefer the model 19 over the G17 for concealed carry).

 

[Chrisg67]

glock 17>M&P>P99

are you planning to carry? if so i suggest Glock 19....not to try and steer this thread off the road or anything

 

[Ninsho]

I like my glock 17, a 2nd gen should only cost you $500 tops. If you go M&P you will likely need to get a trigger job done, and your limited to neutered mags.

 

[M1911]

Dunno why you would want something with a decocker if what you want is something easy to use -- a DA/SA pistol is more complex and harder to use than a striker-fired pistol.

 

[ochmude]

yea I am trying to buy a house at the moment as well so I dont want to spend a ton of cash on a pistol

Based on that, I'd go with the M&P. I'm a fan of Glock, but the M&P has a very good reputation, can be purchased brand new with zero effort in MA, can be fixed for $65, and will still be cheaper than a used Gen 1 or 2 Glock (let alone Gen 3).

 

[chris_1001]

I LOVE my P99.... I had a glock and sold it...

 

[hardy]

Glock 17, but a 19 if you are going to carry

 

[thebusinessend]

Besides the grip, is there much of a difference in the 2nd and 1st gen Glocks compared to the 3rd?

I like my glock 17, a 2nd gen should only cost you $500 tops. If you go M&P you will likely need to get a trigger job done, and your limited to neutered mags.

 

[ochmude]

Also the rail. I've heard that there is a very slight change in the grip angle for the Gen 3 Glocks, but I didn't notice it.

 

[appraiser]

I would go for the M&P 9 if you are comfortable with it

Save some money and send it to Derr Precision down in MarshVegas for a trigger job

I can not see paying a super premium for a Glock, and in MA a used Gen1 or Gen2 Glock is going to cost more than a new one in a free state, and Gen3 they want your first born male child and your left nut. They are practical weapons, but you wouldn't pay a premium for a toyota would you?

 

[M1911]

Besides the grip, is there much of a difference in the 2nd and 1st gen Glocks compared to the 3rd?

Rails and finger grooves. I can't see paying the big premium required to get a 3rd generation Glock in MA. If you want a Glock, get a 1st or 2nd and spend the difference on ammunition.

 

[Len-2A Training]

Which one is more comfortable with you?

I'd go with the S&W, but that's just me.

This is the right answer . . . what fits you best and you can shoot best!

We own all 3, except our P99 is in .40. The M&P fits my hand the best and the trigger job is cheaper than running ammo thru it to "break it in". The free extra 2 mags (when you finally get them) is a big plus too.

But if one of the others fits you better and you can shoot better with it, go for that one. All 3 are good, solid guns.

 

[thebusinessend]

sounds good. thanks for the advice gang!

 

[Bob P]

From an esthetical standpoint I prefer the M&P. Aside from the hicap mag issue there's not a whole lot of difference between the 17 and the M&P.

 

[edirtyfour]

Ultimately you have to pick what fits you best, which might mean you have to buy one and shoot it a bunch to figure that out for yourself. All three are great pistols, and your choice of favorite will boil down to subjective preferences that will reveal themselves after putting a few thousand rounds through the one that you pick.

High-caps for the Glock are relatively cheap and available. I would pick it for that. If mag capacity is no concern and the M&P works for you, go for it. As several have mentioned if you're looking to CCW it go with a Glock 19.

 

[RickG]

+1 for the P99. Very comfortable to shoot and very accurate. Hi caps are available but cost upwards of $100 each.

That being said, If I had to choose, I would get the Glock 19. Hi caps are plentiful and relatively cheap plus holster availability is much better then the Walther. Spare/aftermarket parts are also plentiful.

I don't own the Mp so I cannot comment.

 

[boxerjake77]

my m&p is a great fit in my hand,and a great shooter. stiff trigger,but not as bad as people say.( mine is not really that bad )

 

[ShadeWPI]

If you decide to go with a Glock 17 or 19, let me make a recommendation - the Glock 22 or Glock 23 instead.

When Glock first released the 22 and 23 in .40 S&W it was build on the exact same frame as the 17 and 19 respectively, however they found the increased recoil impulse of the .40 S&W round was more than the 17/19 pins could handle. They modified the frame to handle an extra pin for more strength.

If you want to shoot 9mm, Storm Lake makes a conversion barrel for the Glock 22 or 23 to shoot 9mm ammo, you'll just need Glock 17 or Glock 19 magazines. The barrels are about $120. An additional $120 and you can also pick up a .357 Sig barrel, giving you 3 ammunition options for a single weapon and a frame built to handle .40 S&W ammunition, even if you're firing 9mm.

 

[Mass-diver]

th.

If you want to shoot 9mm, Storm Lake makes a conversion barrel for the Glock 22 or 23 to shoot 9mm ammo, you'll just need Glock 17 or Glock 19 magazines. The barrels are about $120. An additional $120 and you can also pick up a .357 Sig barrel, giving you 3 ammunition options for a single weapon and a frame built to handle .40 S&W ammunition, even if you're firing 9mm.

IME, converted G22/23 are not always 100% reliable. It's fine if you want to shoot 9mm at the range and carry .40, but if you want to carry 9mm I would not do so in a G22 with a conversion barrel, although lots of people od.

 

[ShadeWPI]

While I don't see any reason to carry 9mm over .40S&W, have you heard of any reliability problem? The ramp angle and location with respect to the magazine is identical. The ramp is slightly steeper than a glock factory, but the same as a replacement barrel on a 22/23. The frame dimensions are identical asside from the noted additional pin, though 3rd Generation Glock 17s and 19s may have this pin also.

 

[fbirdquik6]

m&p.

 

[Chrisg67]

i am sure they are of high quality, but i wouldnt trust my life to a conversion gun. JMO

for just target, hell ya

 

[rcinma]

I am not a Glock fan, but given your choices I would buy one over the M&P or 99.

I refuse to buy a full-size 9mm if I can only get 10-round mags.

Of course, I would buy another Beretta 92 before any on your list.

 

[Mass-diver]

While I don't see any reason to carry 9mm over .40S&W, have you heard of any reliability problem? The ramp angle and location with respect to the magazine is identical. The ramp is slightly steeper than a glock factory, but the same as a replacement barrel on a 22/23. The frame dimensions are identical asside from the noted additional pin, though 3rd Generation Glock 17s and 19s may have this pin also.

I have a buddy who had some trouble with a converted G23 (nothing major but enough to make think twice with a carry gun), it's my understanding that the potential issue is with the extractor

 

[graftyman]

I have a G-32(.357 sig) with a .40 and 9mm conversion barrel.

The .40 is Rock Solid as the extractor is the same for the .40 and .357 sig. 9mm is surprisingly reliable. Only a few Failed to Ejects after hundreds of rounds and none recently.

The .40/.357 sig extractor is the issue, the 9mm conversion barrel offsets it to work reasonably well. Would I carry my G-32 with the 9mm conversion barrel in it. Nope. I can't think of a reason I would prefer to carry it in 9 instead of .357 sig.

If you reload you should note that the .40/.357 sig extractor puts a little dent in the case neck. This will limit your ability to reload the brass depending on your comfort level with the dings. If you don't reload then this a G-23/G-32 with the conversion barrels is a great setup. Lot's of options for one gun.

I reload my 9mm so for the reason I mentioned above I kick myself for selling my G-19. It was my favorite gun I've ever owned. Evergreen, want to sell it back?

I looked into an aftermarket slide set up and the cost was as much as buying another gun. Which is what I just did. Trying out the M&P 9.

Oh and BTW, Remsport makes and sells the conversion barrels. Local and great to work with. Both my .40 and 9mm are their match grade. Same price as the Lone Wolf ones and a Local Ma company.