pinning a stock

[Jordo]

When it comes to pinning a collapsible stock with a roll pin, what is to keep it from coming out? Does it fill the requirements to just pin it so that it can be punched out later or should apoxy be added to ensure that it never can come out? Thanks in advance.

 

[Kevlar]

There is no guidance provided in the statutes (or in case law, that I am aware of). It is generally accepted that a roll pin is sufficient.

 

[DukeNukem]

Mine was pinned with a roll pin and I then transferred it through a dealer, no issues...so I would say go or it.

 

[jkeeley1]

mine came pinned, this pin can be easily removed (I leave it in so it doesn't accidently cause nuclear meltdowns, impregnate virgins and eat babies like I hear unpinned stocks are known to do in MA)

 

[glide]

I use roll pins AND epoxy.

One time I was out at the range, and the pin started to pop out due to the recoil. I was just lucky that i noticed it.

 

[ptanks56]

And after much looking and asking ROs they are technically suppose to be installed in "Blind"
hole, drilled from one side and not all the way through stock material

 

[Remsport Mfg]

Blind hole roll pin is OK I put a spot of epoxy to finish it off.

 

[Sputa Arms]

Nothing like a little epoxy to RUIN a $200 stock, and prevent it from what it is supposed to do ADJUST.. Ma. Rules and Regulations

 

[Jordo]

So it's not supposed to be drilled all the way through to the other side? Well too late for that. It is pinned beneath the tension lever of the stock though. is that considered "blind"? Should I re-pin it in another spot? Have I just thrown money out the window by pinnng it the way I did?

 

[glide]

What is a 'blind' hole?

 

[Stef]

What is a 'blind' hole?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=blind+hole

 

[Dench]

I use roll pins AND epoxy.

One time I was out at the range, and the pin started to pop out due to the recoil. I was just lucky that i noticed it.

Sure are! You would of been carted right off to jail the second that the pin fell out!

 

[glide]

Sure are! You would of been carted right off to jail the second that the pin fell out!

I understand the helicopters would not have descended right away...but imagine I got pulled over for whatever reason 6 months later on the way to the range. Not something I want to deal with.

 

[Stef]

So it's not supposed to be drilled all the way through to the other side? Well too late for that. It is pinned beneath the tension lever of the stock though. is that considered "blind"? Should I re-pin it in another spot? Have I just thrown money out the window by pinnng it the way I did?

Nope. There is nothing that says it has to be pinned into a blind hole. As long as it requires tools to remove, it can be in a blind hole or a through hole.

 

[jkeeley1]

As long as it requires tools to remove

I've read differing opinions on this as well, for instance a pin is ok, but setting up the adjustment lever so that it is locked in place by a hex bolt that can be removed to adjust it(making it removable w/ a tool) is not ok. So basically it has to at least give the illusion of being permanent. (these ar only opinions that I have read, MA law would never be that specific).

 

[Jordo]

I appreciate all the input. It is truly frustrating trying to navigate through the technicalities, but it is nice to be part of a group of people who are willing to help with that, so thanks.

 

[Chrisg67]

I've read differing opinions on this as well, for instance a pin is ok, but setting up the adjustment lever so that it is locked in place by a hex bolt that can be removed to adjust it(making it removable w/ a tool) is not ok. So basically it has to at least give the illusion of being permanent. (these ar only opinions that I have read, MA law would never be that specific).

hmm i was just about to ask about that. i was hoping to be able to pin it with an allen head screw..

how do they determine that a pin is ok, but a screw is not? each require a tool to remove...so they tell you which tool you are able to take the pin out with?

 

[jkeeley1]

hmm i was just about to ask about that. i was hoping to be able to pin it with an allen head screw..

how do they determine that a pin is ok, but a screw is not? each require a tool to remove...so they tell you which tool you are able to take the pin out with?

From what I have been told (mostly on these boards) is that it has to at least give the impression of being permanent. That being said, I would think the most an LEO would do is try to collapse the stock if it's compliance was questionable, I would think the method in which it was made MA compliant would only be called into question if the gun were used in a crime or in a self defense situation where lawyers are looking at it.