Question about PTR

[sig shooter]

I'm thinking of buying a PTR rifle from Atlantic firearms and having it sent to a gunsmith to have it massified. What would need to be done besides pinning a muzzle break to make it mass compliant? Does the PTR have a bayonet lug that would need to be grinded off?

Thanks

 

[southshore]

I'm thinking of buying a PTR rifle from Atlantic firearms and having it sent to a gunsmith to have it massified. What would need to be done besides pinning a muzzle break to make it mass compliant? Does the PTR have a bayonet lug that would need to be grinded off?

Thanks

Buy a factory Mass compliant version from an FFL instead. Call M+M in Plymouth. He's had them in the past.

 

[not new guy]

It should just be the muzzle device. The bayonet lug on these is a separate adaptor/attachment that's not standard.

 

[turbo38gn]

Nicks Sport Shop, Palmer had several PTR's when I stopped in there several months ago...

 

[sig shooter]

Buy a factory Mass compliant version from an FFL instead. Call M+M in Plymouth. He's had them in the past.

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[sig shooter]

I would be interested in a cetme also, if anyone finds any let me know.

 

[rkwjunior]

I'm not gonna assume the prices for a PTR in a Mass dealer are more expensive, but in my experience i've found it's still cheaper to buy out of state and have the dealer Massify it before they transfer it, Mass dealers have a tendency to jack up the price before it even arrives at their dealer, then tack on Mass sales tax.

Again, these dealers that sell PTR's in Mass might have great prices, but i'd shop online first to see what makes sense.


Just looked at those Atlantic PTR prices, and i'd bet those are nearly impossible to beat, some have free shipping attached to them. Make some calls around Mass, but i'd venture to say you might save a couple hundred bucks buying from Atlantic.

That PTR PDW with a stock and a tax stamp would be BADASS!! hmmm??

 

[sig shooter]

Junior, I totally agree!

 

[beriky]

I'm pretty sure Atlantic firearms will make them MA compliant for you. They even say they make them CA compliant on the website.

 

[HansGruber]

Sorry to jack this thread - but I, too, am looking into getting a PTR. Will it hurt to run full .308 factory loads in them? Or should you stick to 7.62x51 NATO rounds?

In other words would it be like running 5.56 in a .223 barrel of an AR? All I can find online is that it has a ".308 or 7.62x51" barrel.. Which is confusing to me. Thanks ahead of time.


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[In God We Trust]

Sorry to jack this thread - but I, too, am looking into getting a PTR. Will it hurt to run full .308 factory loads in them? Or should you stick to 7.62x51 NATO rounds?

In other words would it be like running 5.56 in a .223 barrel of an AR? All I can find online is that it has a ".308 or 7.62x51" barrel.. Which is confusing to me. Thanks ahead of time.


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I have shot many surplus .308 rounds through mine and it's fine. The barrels on these things are very heavy and will handle .308 so long as that's what it's rated for.


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[MJ1]

I have shot many surplus .308 rounds through mine and it's fine. The barrels on these things are very heavy and will handle .308 so long as that's what it's rated for.


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What is surplus .308? Left over commercial .308 from sporting goods stores? Just asking.

A simple answer to the OP's question would be to roll your own and use 147g for 300 yards and under and 168g out to 600 yards which is my ranges limit.

Good luck

 

[FreeWillie]

Sorry to jack this thread - but I, too, am looking into getting a PTR. Will it hurt to run full .308 factory loads in them? Or should you stick to 7.62x51 NATO rounds?

In other words would it be like running 5.56 in a .223 barrel of an AR? All I can find online is that it has a ".308 or 7.62x51" barrel.. Which is confusing to me. Thanks ahead of time.


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SAAMI says it's ok to mix and match. In short they are interchangable.

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[M1911]

What is surplus .308? Left over commercial .308 from sporting goods stores?

Military surplus 7.62 NATO. Many armies had older 70s and 80s production 7.62 NATO that they sold off as they replaced it with newer production ammo. The West German stuff was great -- cheap and accurate (and long gone, too, ).

 

[MJ1]

Military surplus 7.62 NATO. Many armies had older 70s and 80s production 7.62 NATO that they sold off as they replaced it with newer production ammo. The West German stuff was great -- cheap and accurate (and long gone, too, ).

That would still be surplus 7.62X51 NATO I would think. I have bought lots of surplus bit it was always called 7.62. Just saying that is what I recall.

Cheers

 

[PaulD]

That would still be surplus 7.62X51 NATO I would think. I have bought lots of surplus bit it was always called 7.62. Just saying that is what I recall.

Cheers

It's essentially the same thing, though .308 (civilian designation) can tend to be hotter.

 

[DONALDG-HOG]

I usually see these at the local shows cheaper than the shops. This is one of the few guns that are usually cheaper at show for some reason. Plymouth bay has PTR's but they are like 1300 bucks. I have seen them at local shows for under 800.

I would be interested in a cetme also, if anyone finds any let me know.

 

[In God We Trust]

It's essentially the same thing, though .308 (civilian designation) can tend to be hotter.

The stuff I bought still had the metal belt links attached. It was hotter than any of the civilian .308 I fired through it. Left my shoulder black and blue after a couple mags.


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[sig shooter]

The stuff I bought still had the metal belt links attached. It was hotter than any of the civilian .308 I fired through it. Left my shoulder black and blue after a couple mags.


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Sounds like fun

 

[seasmoke]

Best to stick with 7.62 NATO or steel case in full power roller-locks. Commercial .308 brass has thinner case walls and this combined with the rather 'robust' extraction of the G3/91 you stand a good chance ripping the case head off. You can shoot .308, just keep a broken shell extractor handy.

 

[Eyemahm]

Ejection is certainly violent. But I've shot my best groups with Hornady Superformance 150 and that stuff is the hottest out there. No problems in the ptr.

 

[mursenary4]

I would be interested in a cetme also, if anyone finds any let me know.

I was looking into a CETME a few months ago. After alot of research, I found that CETME rifles are VERY hit and miss. Some of them work like butter, others wont cycle a single round. They go on gunbroker for anywhere between 450-600 (before shipping and tx $). I thnk you would be better off to pony up a couple hundred dollars and go to the PTR. Like another poster wrote, they can be had used for 800-900 if you look hard enough. Hope that helped!!

 

[not new guy]

What are actual hk91s going for these days?

 

[In God We Trust]

What are actual hk91s going for these days?

More than a brand new PTR. I shopped for an HK a few years ago and after seeing the prices, just bought the PTR. This was before the Newtown scare and they were pornographic.

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[M1911]

What are actual hk91s going for these days?

More than $2500.

 

[sig shooter]

I've been looking around and the ptr is the most cost-effective route. I can't afford 2 grand!

 

[massBRS]

Question. Could a PTR PDW parts kit be shipped to a MA FFL? I could imagine a lot of red flags with a complete PDW as it's not very MA friendly, but how about a parts kit assembled on the same premise as one could conceivably use to build an AR "pistol"???

 

[MJ1]

Mil Surplus cases are better for reloading I use CAVIM or LC in 7.62, these have eight reloads, and LC in 5.56, these have five reloads.