My first experience with this shop wasn't too bad to be honest. Bought a benchmade 741 first production for a somewhat expensive but not msrp price. So I come back to this shop because al told me that he knew the CEO of benchmade. Idk wether this is true or not, but at the time I believed him and asked if he could help me get a discontinued model, a 630bk skirmish. Of course he can! So I pay $280 for it and he tells me how benchmade keeps a bunch of discontinued models on hand in some back warehouse. He tells me it'll be about a week until it ships and about 2 to get here. So I go back in three weeks. Nothing. Tells me to check back in a week. Nothing. Tells me to give it a few more days. Nothing. One time when I checked he got pissed off and yelled at me, saying "were doing you a ****ing favor by getting you this. I'm not making much off it anyway so I'll just cancel it if you can't be happy.". Ok cause I have no right to know where my $280 knife is after about a month and a half of waiting? So this game goes on for a few more weeks and then I tell him I want my money back. He goes on to tell me how it's going to be a huge process for him to get refunded first so he can refund me. So he tells me to check my account in about a week. Guess what? Moneys not there! Big surprise right? So I go in and he's like "guess what? They found the knife, they accidentally shipped it to Oregon." so he tries to get me to buy it again lol. Not happening, I still want my money back This goes on for about three weeks and then I go in with my dad and boom, refunds it to my card and the moneys there the next day. Obviously he never ordered it and his whole deal with having his supplier refund him was a load of bullshit. Case in point, stay away from this place and it's scumbag owner. He's a thief and he's only after peoples money, he doesn't give two shits if you get what you want, or in my case and probably many other peoples, anything at all.