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Are you sure about that?Can't ban the belt loop
100% sureAre you sure about that?
Mass is going to try
If they pass the house bill they could argue your belt loop is a conversion device if you use it to bump fire - or any other device for that matter.100% sure
they'll require a 10lb trigger pull on every firearm, no grandfathering, to be tested at a SP facility annually, unannouncedAre you sure about that?
Mass is going to try
At your cost...they'll require a 10lb trigger pull on every firearm, no grandfathering, to be tested at a SP facility annually, unannounced
And your arms will be stored at a bonded facility at your cost until the one person in the entire state is able to perform the testing.At your cost...
If they pass the house bill they could argue your belt loop is a conversion device if you use it to bump fire - or any other device for that matter.
It won't stand but will take several years to work through the courts
No point in being afraid of the inevitableI am not going to worry about it.
Mark Smith (4 boxes diner) did a pretty good breakdown especially on the ATF going after existing people who had bump stocks. I found it shocking how they admitted that the ATF was willing to go after everyone, even people impacted by the 5th circuit.I was listening to blurbs on some gun YT channel. It's more about what the JUDGES are saying. This isn't a gun rights issue. It's a power-of-the-Executive Branch case. And the gubb'mint is gonna lose HARD on this one.
It's moot in mASS because, as an overstepping case, it has no 2A merit to overturn the law in mASS. I'm not THAT upset b/c wasting $9 a mag to mag dump my AR seems a bit silly to me.
That fact was not lost on Sotomayor or Gorsuch - And Sotomayor will carry both Kagan and Brown in opposition to the ATF setting people up for a paper felony.Mark Smith (4 boxes diner) did a pretty good breakdown especially on the ATF going after existing people who had bump stocks. I found it shocking how they admitted that the ATF was willing to go after everyone, even people impacted by the 5th circuit.
Can't ban the belt loop
My son, as a kid, could easily bump fire my mini-14 with 20 round prebans from the shoulder AND keep it on a standard target at 50 yards - no need for any accessory.At least the government was strangely AOK with belt loops and rubber bands. It seemed like their point was that this "allowed" someone to shoulder-fire and "control" the automatic fire.
Which is funny. I would have done this - let's have Supreme Court Day at the range. Bring an SKS and teach them to bump-fire it. Bring and M-16. Then bring and AR with a bump-stock. LEt's see how well they do bump-firing. Because the LV shooter was pretty lame on it. It isn't NEARLY as easy as the ATF made it out to be. It's a range toy. It's stupid that I'm fighting for a stupid range toy, but I am.
Range day would have swiftly decided this 7-2 for sure.
Are you forgetting that there are 3 liberals on the court who will always vote against gun rights no matter if it’s right or wrong? At best you’d get 6-3, and I honestly doubt your range day idea would even get all of the conservatives.Range day would have swiftly decided this 7-2 for sure.
My thought is that the opinion will be a win/lose for usAre you forgetting that there are 3 liberals on the court who will always vote against gun rights no matter if it’s right or wrong? At best you’d get 6-3, and I honestly doubt your range day idea would even get all of the conservatives.
You can still bump fire with just your finger and with the rifle shouldered.My thought is that the opinion will be a win/lose for us
Win - bump stocks are not covered under the statutory language.
Lose - items that allow an increase in rate of fire over an arbitrary low fire rate fall outside the 2nd amendments protection and the legislature can rewrite the NFA
You can still bump fire with just your finger and with the rifle shouldered.
View: https://www.facebook.com/militaryarms/videos/but-but-but-you-cant-bump-fire-from-the-shoulder-without-a-special-stock-ive-bee/1837117376300053/
I am not paying any more than 5 bucksWell then you need to pay $200/ea for those fingers
How about tree fiddy? south park tree fiddy - Google SearchI am not paying any more than 5 bucks
I think that’s a good assessment. This SCOTUS is not nearly as pro-2A as everyone thought they were.My thought is that the opinion will be a win/lose for us
Win - bump stocks are not covered under the statutory language.
Lose - items that allow an increase in rate of fire over an arbitrary low fire rate fall outside the 2nd amendments protection and the legislature can rewrite the NFA
Actually it should be out by the end of this SCOTUS term in JuneWhen does the decision come out? another 5 yrs.
Should be interestingActually it should be out by the end of this SCOTUS term in June
At least the government was strangely AOK with belt loops and rubber bands. It seemed like their point was that this "allowed" someone to shoulder-fire and "control" the automatic fire.
Which is funny. I would have done this - let's have Supreme Court Day at the range. Bring an SKS and teach them to bump-fire it. Bring and M-16. Then bring and AR with a bump-stock. LEt's see how well they do bump-firing. Because the LV shooter was pretty lame on it. It isn't NEARLY as easy as the ATF made it out to be. It's a range toy. It's stupid that I'm fighting for a stupid range toy, but I am.
Range day would have swiftly decided this 7-2 for sure.