I'm only saying this because the Left never surrenders and always pivots when they realize they're on a losing course. If they can't use legislative and judicial means to slowly destroy the 2nd Amendment, then they'll use force (after some major event) to take the guns and it will be done quickly.
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Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread
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Go up and do a search of "this thread only" and put in twitter. Or do an advanced search and put in for the past 7 days and twitter.
I think you will be finding "no one cares" is incorrect; and that is just here.
The battle of mindshare is being won on social media. You don't have to like it, but it is true.
Hows this? The district court judge roger benetiz ruled the AWB was unconstitutional. The 3 judge panel who issued the stay is a Clinton judge, Obama and trump. If the lift the stay you’ll get instant gratification.
View: https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1542619898844676097?s=20&t=JNWYbU7ld_JTujBxPtuJcg
Doubtful. I can think of no practical way for American LE forces to effectively search every room of every home and find every firearm. There are just too many homes, too many guns, and not enough LEOs (even with the ARNG). Add in some opposition, and the whole thing becomes a nightmare that no LEO will be eager to pursue, especially day after day for months.
But if it does happen, and it is "done quickly," then that's on us. Whenever confiscation happens, if it does, then it's incumbent on gun owners to make the process as deadly and lengthy as possible for the JBTs.
VetteGirlMA
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There’s no pending case but they can re file.
VetteGirlMA
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In the name of heaven re-file. No more edicts from horse face.
So what does it take to get from Point A to Point B? What is the process, and by who?
One year? Two years? That's a BIG if.
What was the original case that they would "re-file"?
This. This x1000. No point in being a blowhard about things. That’s the beauty of a god given right. I don’t really worry about new gun laws or confiscations because I simply will not comply. The firearms we possess give us the agency to be swift and effective in that pursuit.
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Looks like I got bad info from “Q”
I’m not surprised the Supreme Court kick it back to the lower courts. That is how the process is supposed to work. I somehow doubt there a new guidance is going to change much though it’s gonna work its way back to the top. There’s no longer a two-step process it as far as ruling based on the original intent of historical precedent these lower courts are just going to use the same “logic” they have been using.
Why is it called black swan, and do you have two or three examples? Thanks.
That 9th panel can lift the stay immediately
The Massachusetts case from Comm2A was worman v Healy. It’s dead, it was appealed to SCOTUS a few years ago and denied. They’d need to file a new case.
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This x1,000.
I'll lose hundreds of resale dollars I've paid as a "MA premium" for some of my rifles. It's a price I'm more than willing to pay, and so is everyone else here.
I read this as "woman v Healy," and assumed it had hinged around a dispute where Healy assumed she was hitting on a lesbian and ended up being mistaken.
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That 9th panel can lift the stay immediately
The Massachusetts case from Comm2A was worman v Healy. It’s dead, it was appealed to SCOTUS a few years ago and denied. They’d need to file a new case.
Worman v. Healey - SCOTUSblog
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At least one party to Worman v Healey no longer has standing after moving to a free state.
(I love it up here by the way.)
It's more than that. They vacated the circuit court ruling upholding the MD AW ban and sent it back to be reconsidered using Bruen as a guide. They vacated the circuit court ruling upholding the NJ 10 round limit and sent it back to be reconsidered, again with Bruen as a guide. These are non-trivial. It may take time, but these are effectively the USSC stating that Bruen is more extensive than the licensing decision.
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Thank you… I didn’t get to do as much research as I usually do. Too busy reading my own court documents
Edit… I don’t know why I have to read this shit I thought I’d pay people to do it.
Check previous posts, these cases were covered earlier today. The cases revert back to the circuit panel who heard them, many of those panels will be favorable
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I read it at work this morning. Gotta head back in now I’ll read it again then. I can’t go back through 50 pages of us all just talking nonsense
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As for the Bonta case from California, this is how strategic lawyers lawyer strategically:
www.thetruthaboutguns.com
Firearms Policy Coalition Files Ninth Circuit Motion to Lift Stay of California's Assault Weapons Ban Ruling - The Truth About Guns
Last year, Federal District Court Judge Roger Benitez ruled that California’s “assault weapons” ban is unconstitutional in Miller v. Bonta. Benitez applied the Heller decision’s ruling to his decision in the case. He then refused a request to stay his order while the case was appealed by the...
www.thetruthaboutguns.com
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Have that alphabet soup with a double dose of Ex-Lax, and you might produce a coherent post.
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I would say the battle is more for Narrative Control.
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Not saying shooting a home invader in MA would get a different treatment than the security guy got (although MA has castle doctrine for when in your home) but, you can’t compare a home invasion with a shooting that happened at the workplace.One thing that gets overlooked out here in CA is the castle doctrine too. You plug a home invader and the cops just come collect the body.
Moreno Valley homeowner ‘justified’ for shooting intruder, sheriff says
A homeowner who shot an intruder early Wednesday morning in Moreno Valley is unlikely to face criminal charges after the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department determined he was justified in s…ktla.com
vs MA where a security guard shoots a guy in the process of stabbing a doctor to death at a hospital and he gets dragged thru the legal system for 2 years.
I predict a sharp decline in crime in LA over the next handful of years.
Defending against a home invasion is seen more favorably in most states vs defending someone in public at work.
Having said that - it’s disgusting what MA did to that security guard after he saved a life.
He wasn’t working there as a security guard. If he had been, even in MA, the case would have been very clear-cut.
He was just a bystander, a patient at a different clinic down the hall. Absolutely sucks what they did to him, but I wasn’t too surprised.
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Didn’t know that - that makes it even less comparable to a home invasion.
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If you want to see how Bruen will be used to destroy commie faggot courts' that want to play games with our rights, read the motion above.As for the Bonta case from California, this is how strategic lawyers lawyer strategically:
Firearms Policy Coalition Files Ninth Circuit Motion to Lift Stay of California's Assault Weapons Ban Ruling - The Truth About Guns
Last year, Federal District Court Judge Roger Benitez ruled that California’s “assault weapons” ban is unconstitutional in Miller v. Bonta. Benitez applied the Heller decision’s ruling to his decision in the case. He then refused a request to stay his order while the case was appealed by the...
Sorry, I did not know much about it before this. I just did a quick "google" on it. Let us know what you find.
So there won't be a "re-file". Thanks. How does that change anything? Now they need to find a new case?
That too.
Who said it would be US LEO or NatGuard or military? Plenty of "peacekeepers" that can be deployed here, especially those of a Mandarin persuasion...
They will send your family to do it.
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