Walther PPS trigger

I bought a PPS and mine has the "S" stamped disconnector. I have no problems with the trigger pull, or the accuracy, but the reset is ridiculously long, indistinct and gritty, even after several hundred rounds. All said, I like my P99c better, and I'm not sure if the PPS will ever replace it as my carry gun.
 
OK. I just did it.

What a royal PITA! Don't try this unless you:

  1. ...are mechanically inclined (I am).
  2. ...have a good set of punches (I do).
  3. ...are very patient (I'm not. Not at all).

The pull is a lot better with the new disconnector. It went from 17 lbs to more like 6.

Be forewarned:
Good friggin' luck getting the retainer (12.14) and retainer spring (12.15) back in after they fall out.
 
EddieCoyle said:
OK. I just did it.

What a royal PITA! Don't try this unless you:

  1. ...are mechanically inclined (I am).
  2. ...have a good set of punches (I do).
  3. ...are very patient (I'm not. Not at all).

The pull is a lot better with the new disconnector. It went from 17 lbs to more like 6.

Be forewarned:
Good friggin' luck getting the retainer (12.14) and retainer spring (12.15) back in after they fall out.
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OK! I don't need anymore stress right now. Who can I hire on the north shore to do this?
 
Well after EC's positive statements I've gone ahead and ordered the part.

I am mechanically inclined these have nothing on mid 80's honda V-4 motorcycles.
I do have a Glock punch which is supposed to work (that's what Destro1d used in another post)
I have marginal patience but can talk myself off the ledge.

I tried to take it apart the other day but couldn't get the roll pin out. I didn't have the part so I was not 100% commited to getting it out though.

Then again I took the frame apart on my SW40VE the other day to change the striker spring to a Wolf 3.5. That was a Dumb A$% moment if I've ever had one. I'll post my experience when it comes in. EC only took 2 1/2 hours from post to post.
 
Oh hell, now I want to buy a PPS just to see how quick I can dis-, and re-assemble it to the last pin. I'm kind of a junky in that respect. I've yet to meet a handgun that beat me.
 
The part number is the Disconnector on the parts diagram.

However, I just called Walther Customer Service 1-800-372-6454 and asked for the Disconnector for a PPS. He looked up the part number (same from the parts list) and ordered it.

8 something for the part plus shipping came out to be 13 and change delivered.
 
I changed my disconnector out the past night. It took me about 1.4 hours start to finish. Using the pictures and instructions in the other thread is key. use one of the camping headlights if you have it.
 
Finally got my pin out. It was super TIGHT. Seeing how the pin is made it looks like it creates an outward tension on the frame. Good if you never want to take the pin out.

Waiting for my disconnector to show and then I'll go further with it. No sense in sending parts across the room if I don't have the disconnector to fight with.

Ordered it last week, hopefully it will arrive tomorrow or tuesday.
 
Well, I was originally going to offer to help, but there is no way I'm doing that on someone else's gun.

It took me about an hour and a half. I wasted about 15-20 minutes messing around with the damn take down pin getting it just right in there. I think I might need a new take down spring. I must have put a score in it while taking it out.

This definitely isn't for the faint of heart. Normally I would say you'll get to know your stuff better once you take it apart. This was a long list of .. ohh crap, I'm going to have to bring a bunch of parts to a gunsmith to finish it.

Issues I had. My paperclip was too soft. I couldn't get the sear housing pin out. I wound up using a push pin to get it started. I was able to tap on it with the hammer slightly.

EC said it about the retaining clip. I tried so HARD not to let it come out. Sure enough it came out. However I was able to figure out a way to wedge it in, get the spring oriented and pop it into its place. I had a harder time getting the disconnector in it's spot. One thing to note in the pictures of how to take it apart. The retainer clip spring isn't in the picture while looking at the rear of the gun.

I also had issues getting the roll pin back in.

I'm putting down the tools, grabbing a drink and going to dry fire the thing a million times to make sure everything is working right. Trigger issues seem solved.

*sigh* This would have been well worth paying someone up to $100.00 to do.
 
Nice to get all this info on this gun. I handled one today and wa pretty impressed with the slimness. I feel like I NEED an auto, though I'm pretty much a revolver guy.

EC already convinced me to let someone else do the trigger if I buy one, but that little pistol sure felt good in my hand.
 
Ok it's done. Testing the outer limits of my patience and if the old lady disturbed me one more time to chit chat, I would have **************

Good Luck to the next one that tries this job.[crying]
 
I picked one up at Collectors on Saturday.It was ~$20 more than if I'd got it as Four Seasons but I ended up swapping a SIG for it so no big whoop,and the pack of people at FS was more than I wanted to deal with.Of course,Collector's also had an MSAR in stock so that $20 more turned into a bit more than that as well...

My impressions of the PPS is that the ergonomics are for people with LEGO blocks for hands,but make sense when you look at its purpose and it's surprisingly pointable with a firm grip.I was disappointed that it only came with one mag and triple so that the damned things are $50 each! Seriously,that's taking the piss when the gun is $600 and the first ones came with them...the empty holes in the box taunting me.Had I been smart enough to ask,it might have been a deal breaker.$50 for a tiny single stack mag is just re-gott-damn-diculous but it's stamped Italy so maybe Mec-Gar will have some aftermarket ones soon?

The trigger is pretty firm,to be generous,but I'm thinking of trying a Clipdraw as it's not exactly as light as a Glock,which I wouldn't carry with an open trigger.

Here are some lousy quick photos with size comparison to the P22 and in width to the P22 and Glock 19.

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I'm now wondering though how much the .380 P22 will eat into the sales of it,especially considering it's going to be a couple hundred bucks cheaper?
 
When I bought mine I had gone to FS to look at the SW380 Sigma .380. As I've been on a search to replace my AMT Backup for carry. I want that size. The Sigma .380 was about the same size as the PPS. However, the PPS is a 9mm which if they are similar in size I think alot of people would still go for the 9mm instead of the 380.

In comparison to my P22 the P22 is a bit smaller and lighter but I'm sure the .380 will be heavier than a P22 .380 ish.

Have fun with the disconnector mod. It's worth it in the end, but not a simple drop in.
 
The Sigma .380 is terrible.The SW9VE's are not bad guns and I won't knock them but the little .380 is absolutely dreadful.My brother bought one in the 90's ( IIRC it was $175 on sale) and so far is the only civilian gun that I know of that the manufacturer has set a round count life for,which is one of the reasons I'd be hesitant to buy one.The slides are Zamak and the .380 beats them up pretty good.Granted,you'd have to be fairly commited to actually shoot the thing that much but S&W figured that the gun was used up by 3500 rounds.
I would assume that the typical S&W warranty would cover them but I don't know if they would actually repair the thing or give a credit towards another gun or what these days.The trigger was awful,the magazine release awkward and difficult and it wasn't particularly easy to shoot.In comparison, a Seecamp is easy to operate.
 
outofbattery said:
I picked one up at Collectors on Saturday.It was ~$20 more than if I'd got it as Four Seasons but I ended up swapping a SIG for it so no big whoop,and the pack of people at FS was more than I wanted to deal with.Of course,Collector's also had an MSAR in stock so that $20 more turned into a bit more than that as well...

My impressions of the PPS is that the ergonomics are for people with LEGO blocks for hands,but make sense when you look at its purpose and it's surprisingly pointable with a firm grip.I was disappointed that it only came with one mag and triple so that the damned things are $50 each! Seriously,that's taking the piss when the gun is $600 and the first ones came with them...the empty holes in the box taunting me.Had I been smart enough to ask,it might have been a deal breaker.$50 for a tiny single stack mag is just re-gott-damn-diculous but it's stamped Italy so maybe Mec-Gar will have some aftermarket ones soon?

The trigger is pretty firm,to be generous,but I'm thinking of trying a Clipdraw as it's not exactly as light as a Glock,which I wouldn't carry with an open trigger.

Here are some lousy quick photos with size comparison to the P22 and in width to the P22 and Glock 19.

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walthers.jpg


I'm now wondering though how much the .380 P22 will eat into the sales of it,especially considering it's going to be a couple hundred bucks cheaper?
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niiice PPS. Just out of curiosity was serial number ranges have the MA dealers been getting? AC29xx AC30xx etc?
 
Off the original topic, but. I knew all about the SW380. I wasn't too concerned with life span as once I shot it once or twice it would be just a carry. I never shoot my AMT backup .380. Just not fun to shoot. I still clean and lube it at a regular interval though.

As much as I don't like the AMT, it is the perfect size and ease of carry other than it's weight. Once put in my Roy Baker Pancake it's just comfortable to carry. So I went there looking at the SW380 it was for that purpose. Almost got it until I compared it to the PPS and went home with the PPS.
 

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