Which .40 Compact?

[Eric]

Hi,
I will be purchasing a compact .40 and would like some input. I was dead set on the M&P 40c but got my hands on the Ruger SR40c and loved the trigger as compared to the M&P. I know the M&P needs to have a 10lb trigger pull to be MA compliant and the Ruger is less because of the safety but I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge on the Apex or a similar trigger for the S&W? I like the idea of a safety the M&P I was thinking about buying will have one. Thanks for your help!

 

[mustagt02]

Never shot the ruger, but love my M&P with the apex of course

 

[djmefitz]

+2 for the M&P 40 compact. Had a trigger job done and night sights installed by Business End Customs

 

[wmass]

I have of a full size M&P and after the all trigger work it has a great feel. I haven't shot the SR40c but I do own the 9c. The trigger does feel better but still needs work. The trigger connector has a black coating on it making it pretty gritty. Removing that coating and doing a good polishing job smoothed out and lightened the pull. Doing that and adding XS big dots made the SR9c my EDC .

 

[WargameHub]

Shot both the SR9c and the M&P9c. Neither felt that great for me as my natural point of aim with them was too high. Out of the box the SR9c had the better trigger.

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[jraysig]

Glock 27 is another great option and my carry gun of choice.

 

[Palladin]

Glock 27 is another great option and my carry gun of choice.

This. Change the barrel and you've got a .357 sig

 

[wrczx3]

This. Change the barrel and you've got a .357 sig

Another Glock 27 vote. You can change the barrel and have a 9MM.

 

[castros rat]

I don't own one but I hear good things about the Springfield XD compact.

 

[Coyote33]

If you're going compact, don't overlook the Kahr PM40.

 

[PSS]

Kahr K40 is nice too.the weight of the gun offsets the recoill of the 40

 

[Rmccar4318]

+1 on the G27

 

[qman]

I got a Beretta Mini Cougar in .40 listed in the classified section if interested. Figured I would mention it.....

 

[Mark from ?]

Note that M&P is more the size of a g23 not a g27. With the needed trigger job will cost almost 300 bucks more than the ruger. Ruger is somewhere in between and will likely have the best trigger but a lot of safety shit on it. Kahr is worth a look but those are pricy too. G27 all the way for me.

 

[Eric]

I don't own one but I hear good things about the Springfield XD compact.

I was under the understanding that the Springfield XD compact is illegal in MA is that true?

 

[Bluefin]

Not sure what your budget is and that will impact your decision...I had a Sig 239 that I was carrying until I held and shot the H&K USP 40c. Traded in my 239 the next day and have been carrying the HK ever since. The big difference for me was the weight difference, both shoot very well and are real accurate out to 50ft. I also have the M&P 9c but still prefer the HK. You really can't go wrong with any of the guns that have been mentioned, they are will preform well for your purpose of CCW. Get the one that fits you best.

 

[M1911]

I was under the understanding that the Springfield XD compact is illegal in MA is that true?

No. It is just not on the approved list. Go read the stickies in the MA gun law forum if you want to understand the details.

 

[Eric]

Looked through the threads but the laws are so f*cking confusing some help please.
Thanks

 

[dvajda]

I had a G27 and an XD.40 subcompact. The XD was definitely nicer to carry, but harder to clean. Both were a little unpleasant to shoot in that size with that caliber. I also had a Walther PPS in .40, awesome to carry, but also not fun to shoot.

You can OWN an XD in MA, you just can't BUY one in a store. You can always get one in a FTF from someone who owns one in the state. How did they get it? Don't ask, but usually they bought it in another state before they moved to this state, then registered it. It is all legal. File the paperwork and you have your MA-legal XD. But, if you decide you want to sell it, you have to sell it FTF in this state, as no store will accept it, but that usually isn't an issue.

 

[A1850]

I love love LOVE the SR40c. Consistently hit the target at 50 feet. Managable recoil. Feels great. Makes my tummy all warm and tingly.

 

[M1911]

Looked through the threads but the laws are so f*cking confusing some help please.
Thanks

Ask your question in the MA laws forum. Don't derail this thread.

 

[Coyote33]

Anyone?

Hey, all the goofy writing on these Rugers; has anyone tried to sand or polish it off, and etch something else on?

 

[joshh]

if you are looking for a gun that big, i'd go for a used glock. if you have to have new, then i'd go with the m&p but have a trigger job done. if you want the most compact, best trigger .40 then the kahr pm40 would be the best choice of all just because of its size.

 

[SparkyEE]

I own full sized M&P 9mm and a XDm 9mm. I'll be buying a compact from Springfield Armory (I'm an NH resident). Just which one? do I wait for the smaller XDS? or get an XDm 3.8" compact. Decisions decisions.. The XDS holds fewer rounds and much thinner and more concealable, but will first come out in .45. Will have to wait longer for the .40 .

 

[M1911]

if you are looking for a gun that big, i'd go for a used glock. if you have to have new, then i'd go with the m&p but have a trigger job done. if you want the most compact, best trigger .40 then the kahr pm40 would be the best choice of all just because of its size.

I have a Kahr K9, K40, MK9 and PM9. Given the felt recoil on my PM9 and K40, there is absolutely no way I would want to shoot a PM40.

 

[joshh]

I have a Kahr K9, K40, MK9 and PM9. Given the felt recoil on my PM9 and K40, there is absolutely no way I would want to shoot a PM40.

i think the 9mm is perfect for the pm series and thats what i carry but i own a .40 cal pistol and i cant imagine the pm40 would kick that much harder. hell, theres guys out there who love the pm45's. i went with the 9 because the recoil is less and i can get more shots on target much faster with such a small pistol. but if the op is looking .40 only, it makes sense to check out the pm40 because its the easiest to carry of the bunch. And its well-made right here in worcester.

 

[M1911]

i think the 9mm is perfect for the pm series and thats what i carry but i own a .40 cal pistol and i cant imagine the pm40 would kick that much harder.

Have you actually shot a K40? I own one, and I have. No, the weight of the K40 does not soak up the recoil.

The K9 has little recoil. The MK9 has a bit more than the K9, but still not a lot. The PM9 has noticeably more recoil than the K9. The K40 has noticeably more recoil than the K9, to the point where after 50-70 rounds through the K40 I'm done for the day. The K40 isn't a 12 oz, scandium-framed .357 Airweight. But it is unpleasant. It doesn't take long for the web of my hand to turn red when firing the K40 -- the thin grip makes it hard to keep the gun from moving around in your hand, and the impact is not spread out much due to the thin grip.

The PM9 isn't terrible, but it has noticeable recoil. Add in the increased recoil of the .40 to the PM9 and I'll say no thank you very much. I've heard much the same from several people who used to own a PM40 -- notice the past tense.

I own all of these guns. My opinion is based on direct, repeated experience, not on speculation.

 

[drgrant]

Hi,
I will be purchasing a compact .40 and would like some input. I was dead set on the M&P 40c but got my hands on the Ruger SR40c and loved the trigger as compared to the M&P. I know the M&P needs to have a 10lb trigger pull to be MA compliant and the Ruger is less because of the safety but I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge on the Apex or a similar trigger for the S&W? I like the idea of a safety the M&P I was thinking about buying will have one. Thanks for your help!

None of them. Pick something in 9mm instead, you'll thank me later. (might be 4 years from now, but you will. ) Think long term economics.

-Mike

 

[M1911]

None of them. Pick something in 9mm instead, you'll thank me later

This

 

[joshh]

Have you actually shot a K40? I own one, and I have. No, the weight of the K40 does not soak up the recoil.

The K9 has little recoil. The MK9 has a bit more than the K9, but still not a lot. The PM9 has noticeably more recoil than the K9. The K40 has noticeably more recoil than the K9, to the point where after 50-70 rounds through the K40 I'm done for the day. The K40 isn't a 12 oz, scandium-framed .357 Airweight. But it is unpleasant. It doesn't take long for the web of my hand to turn red when firing the K40 -- the thin grip makes it hard to keep the gun from moving around in your hand, and the impact is not spread out much due to the thin grip.

The PM9 isn't terrible, but it has noticeable recoil. Add in the increased recoil of the .40 to the PM9 and I'll say no thank you very much. I've heard much the same from several people who used to own a PM40 -- notice the past tense.

I own all of these guns. My opinion is based on direct, repeated experience, not on speculation.

nope, havent shot a kahr .40 but countless other .40's. i have to disagree about the pm9's recoil. i think its perfectly manageable. and practice regularly weak side, one handed shooting it without issue. i am sure the .40 would be more significant which is why i went with the pm9 but i wouldnt let it be a dealbreaker for the op if he has his heart set on .40 only. i'd rather the 9mm in a subcompact myself, but to each his own.
i understand you re basing your opinion on that you own all these guns but keep in mind the recoil you find to be excessive might be manageable for someone else.