1836 to 1911 What a difference 75 years made.

[Cap'n Mike]

I saw this picture on X and it kind of blew my mind.

US Government issue 1836 Flintlock with a US Government issue Issue 1911. (Actually a 1911A1)

 

[snax]

And the 1911 is over 100 years in and still holds up agsinst modern pistols.

 

[G4Y4HK]

1904 and 2024.

 

[Andy in NH]

75 years after 1911 this was the service pistol.

 

[gerrycaruso]

I believe the Mountain Men, Civil War, Pony Express and Indian Wars also came and went during that period.

 

[Broc Tuah]

One was a good gun.
The other one earned the nickname "jam master".

 

[paul73]

I saw this picture on X and it kind of blew my mind.

US Government issue 1836 Flintlock with a US Government issue Issue 1911. (Actually a 1911A1)

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too lazy to post a picture of G17, but it is what next 100yrs produced.
despite of all the '2 world wars' done in a screechy boomers voices, glock rules.

 

[Andy in NH]

One was a good gun.
The other one earned the nickname "jam master".

I heard Ken Hackathon tell the class, "The 1911 chambered in 45 ACP is the world's finest close quarters sidearm… and King of the feed way stoppages.”

 

[Mountain]

My grandfather worked the family cash crop fields (blackberry, wintergreen, etc.) with a pair of Belgian horses as a boy. He later saw his kid fly supersonic jets in the military and airliners across oceans. He also saw the dawn and maturation of the computer age.

This was issue when he was in diapers-

This is what he carried in Guam and the Philippines during WW2-

And this was issue when he passed-

 

[jkelly1229]

too lazy to post a picture of G17, but it is what next 100yrs produced.
despite of all the '2 world wars' done in a screechy boomers voices, glock rules.

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So good you never know what it's going to shoot

 

[CMEBoston]

 

[T-Unit]

I'm saving up my pennies for when Elon Musk announces his next companies' product

 

[Picton]

I love this thread.

 

[Andy in NH]

I love this thread.

Feel old yet?

 

[Nightshift]

Woman's bathing suit 1870's


Woman's bathing suit 1950's


Woman's bathing suit 2020's

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[northny]

Man went from never having flown in 1903 to landing on the moon in 1969. Only 66 years. Could have added 1901 photo of man walking

 

[VigilantesLiberi]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03vLFWV_mpk

 

[Dennis in MA]

And only another 71 years to attain perfection.

 

[cockpitbob]

I heard Ken Hackathon tell the class, "The 1911 chambered in 45 ACP is the world's finest close quarters sidearm… and King of the feed way stoppages.”

Is that really true of the original service issued ones? I've heard the theory that they only became jam-o-matics after everyone in the civilian market started tightening tolerances.

 

[Dennis in MA]

Is that really true of the origin service issued ones? I've heard the theory that they only became jam-o-matics after everyone in the civilian market started tightening tolerances.

I thought we liked tighter tolerances. Isn't that the major difference between that super-accurate AR and that spray-and-pray AK????

 

[IPSC_DRL]

I have a couple of each of those. The exact same Asa Waters Flintlocks were converted (as most were) for re-use during the civil war.

 

[namedpipes]

I'm saving up my pennies for when Elon Musk announces his next companies' product

I'm literally holding one. I'd buy the real deal if it existed!

Although I'm sure it would be on the NFA list.

 

[Golddiggie]

I thought we liked tighter tolerances. Isn't that the major difference between that super-accurate AR and that spray-and-pray AK????

TightER is one thing, but some are just too tight without being properly fitted (Kimber). There can be a fine line between the German measure of Gudentite and too tight to work right.

BTW, how many years did it take before ak's were even close to as accurate as an AR (on release)?? IIRC, close to 75 years.

I still have the WW2 surplus 1911 that my father had bought, then turned into a race gun. Thing runs flawlessly. Even with the tolerances tightened up. Probably because it was done RIGHT.

 

[G4Y4HK]

I'm literally holding one. I'd buy the real deal if it existed!

Although I'm sure it would be on the NFA list.

I'd rather have one of these. Goa'uld made some fly ass weapons.

one shot taser
two shot death ray
three shot what body?

 

[Fixxah]

One was a good gun.
The other one earned the nickname "jam master".

Limp wristed ladyboys have trouble with semi autos. Lol

 

[Broc Tuah]

Limp wristed ladyboys have trouble with semi autos. Lol

You shouldn't insult the greatest generation like that.

 

[Broc Tuah]

too lazy to post a picture of G17, but it is what next 100yrs produced.
despite of all the '2 world wars' done in a screechy boomers voices, glock rules.

The thing with guns is there isn't that much room for innovation. So much brain power and money was put into what is essentially a fairly simple tool (by today's standard) that it just works.

Companies try to come up with new stuff all the time and most fail. Rifles designed over 60 years ago still get the job done in a battlefield.

 

[Golddiggie]

The 2011 style pistol is just an evolution (which is why it's called a '2011') of the 1911 design. Not a ton that's different between the two. Over the past few years, a TON of companies are jumping onto that train. New tweaks are being marketed for them. Such as accepting grock magazines (meh). Some are now offering different grip materials, other than plastic. Others are cosmetic changes, in the texture of the grip, or slide cuts (I consider slide cuts more cosmetic).

IMO, if JMB had a child that also was into gun design/development like he was (and as prolific) the 2011 style would have come out a LOT sooner.

 

[Mountain]

You shouldn't insult the greatest generation like that.

My grandfathers are from that generation. Both would say get a firm grip and it won't jam.

By the way, it is possible to bump fire a M1 Garand if you don't have a firm grip. It's like a M14 on steroids. I can do it better than this guy but I'm not nearly as funny.

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

Then there is this