You'd have to be to want to join the military now.Isn't that essentially retarded?
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
Be sure to enter the NES/MFS May Giveaway ***Canik METE SFX***
You'd have to be to want to join the military now.Isn't that essentially retarded?
If this is in MA you might be breaking the law as the employer. MA Supreme Court ruled you can't do much about medical MJ use in MA as an employer in terms of drug screens.You wouldn’t believe how many applicants I’ve thrown out because they asked “this drug test, does it screen for weed? I have anxiety so I have a medical card.”
If you can’t get along without it for the two weeks it takes to get out of your system, I don’t want you. Anxiety my ass, I was a sergeant in the infantry at 20 and responsible for other men. I’ve been shot at, stabbed, punched, and had my heart broken by some evil women. I shit on the participation trophy generation’s definition of anxiety!!
Drunken rant over.
Why, yes… of course!! We love the New World Order and hiring weaklings and paying them for nothing.If this is in MA you might be breaking the law as the employer. MA Supreme Court ruled you can't do much about medical MJ use in MA as an employer in terms of drug screens.
Massachusetts’s Highest Court Rules that Employee Fired for Medical Marijuana Use Can Hold Employer Liable for Discrimination
Since you're an upstanding E5 in the infantry at 20, no doubt you will toe the line immediately! At ease, SGT Pioneer!
I knew a guy that scored an 18 and was rejected back in the late 80's.You'd have to be to want to join the military now.
I knew a guy that scored an 18 and was rejected back in the late 80's.
While a great mechanic and body work guy, he was on the borderlin of functional.
Doubt he could have continued as a mechanic for long once electronic controlls became commonplace.
I don't really agree with what people here are saying about "kidz these dayz." I'm just not seeing it. I teach kids BJJ and the kids that go to those classes are pretty fit, motivated, put together, etc.Why, yes… of course!! We love the New World Order and hiring weaklings and paying them for nothing.
Disclaimer: Not happening in Massachusetts!
Whatever. Still inexcusable. An entire generation of pu$$ies. Anxiety? Won’t have them. They’d be nothing but sick calls and AWOLs.
I expect this is the same kind of shitty statistics as the "30K+ gun deaths per year." Just like 2/3 of those are suicides, I'm guessing that most of these "77%" are going to be kids smoking pot, etc.I don't really agree with what people here are saying about "kidz these dayz." I'm just not seeing it. I teach kids BJJ and the kids that go to those classes are pretty fit, motivated, put together, etc.
When I look back at what I was doing in my teens compared to what kidz these dayz do in my class, the kids are doing a lot better than I was. Myself and my peers were a LOT worse when we were kids.
As for the drug test thing, eh. When have drug tests ever been worth it? All they do is catch people who use pot. Big deal.
I don't drug test any of my employees. All I care about is how they behave at work, I have zero interest in what they use outside of work hours.
.gov: We can't find qualifying candidates!
Techs: Have you even looked? We're still digging out of a recession, and there are literally thousands of recent grads.
.gov: Anybody who's ever tried the devil's lettuce, let alone psychedelics, need not apply.
Techs: Umm...that's your entire talent pool.
.gov: Why do you hate America? All is lost!!!1!1!ONE!!
Sadly there is a lot of truth to this. Many of the young engineers and chemists I worked with were soft. No muscle definition what so ever, no biceps, no strength. I called them Pillsbury Dough Boys. Liberal whack jobs as well. One would pizz me off and I would call him a woman with a penis. Of course HR would beg can you please find a way to behave yourself until you retire.
I'm 100% sick of all these adults blaming the kids they raised for all the problems they see.Maybe it's all the microplastics and estrogen and pseudo estrogens in the food and water? The chemicals in all the food? Or how about the elimination of gym class, combat sports, cultural embrace of everyone gets a trophee? Who raised these kids to be like this? Surely it's not the parents fault.
Addressing any of these issues is a lot harder then just calling everyone pussies and thinking anyone else is better.
Anecdotally, this is what I see. In the meantime, a lot of kids, these days have been indoctrinated so thoroughly by the left in the schools that they are actually welcoming the rebirth of communism, and all that awful stuff you mentioned. I get your point though. Every generation thinks the one coming behind them is so much worse. In this case, I think I’m right lol.I think they have a lot to be anxious about though, don't you? The re-birth of communism, exploding inflation, dissolution of SS, a government trying to vax you to death, censorship, erasure of anyone who doesn't toe the line, unaffordable food, fear being jammed down their throat constantly. I could go on and on. Painting with such a broad brush seems unfair, since I could say the same thing about any other generation.
It's not like joining the mil is going to straighten them out either, since mil leadership is all about diversity equity and inclusion. AAMOF, the mil COULD be the last hope for restoring order without bloodshed, but its not. They just follow orders.
And you are a better person for it as well. You worked hard, kept at it, didn't expect anything to be given to you and my guess is you appreciate all you have worked for and all you have achieved in life that you justly earned.I graduated HS 87 out of 309 (Don't ask me why I remember that). I was a three time varsity letter earner in Cross Country and Track so I was in shape. I wanted to go in the Navy. Applied to Naval Academy and rejected. That didn't surprise me. So I go to enlist in the Navy. I was not a pot smoker or druggie and back in 78 they didn't drug test anyways. Passed all the damn tests and that crap and they rejected me on the physical. Said I was color blind, which I knew, and dyslexic, which I also knew. I always figured they messed up.
Fast forward to 10 years to when I finally graduate from College with a BS in Computer Science. I go through the whole process and get offered a job working at the CIA as a data analyst. All I had to do was pass a drug test, no problem at that time, however I decided to take a different job. Governemt is messed up. Not good enough to be a grunt in the Navy but a few years later I'm good enough to be a data analyst at the CIA. Go figure.
I graduated HS 87 out of 309 (Don't ask me why I remember that). I was a three time varsity letter earner in Cross Country and Track so I was in shape. I wanted to go in the Navy. Applied to Naval Academy and rejected. That didn't surprise me. So I go to enlist in the Navy. I was not a pot smoker or druggie and back in 78 they didn't drug test anyways. Passed all the damn tests and that crap and they rejected me on the physical. Said I was color blind, which I knew, and dyslexic, which I also knew. I always figured they messed up.
Fast forward to 10 years to when I finally graduate from College with a BS in Computer Science. I go through the whole process and get offered a job working at the CIA as a data analyst. All I had to do was pass a drug test, no problem at that time, however I decided to take a different job. Governemt is messed up. Not good enough to be a grunt in the Navy but a few years later I'm good enough to be a data analyst at the CIA. Go figure.
The Navy has always rejected for color blindness, because being able to differentiate among different-colored wires and ducts is critical for keeping ships from doing things like catching fire.
I believe they're the only service that disqualifies everyone for color blindness. You could have joined any of the other ones, in many jobs.
I don't really agree with what people here are saying about "kidz these dayz." I'm just not seeing it. I teach kids BJJ and the kids that go to those classes are pretty fit, motivated, put together, etc.
The majority of the kids from your Bjj classes are in the minority of kids like that.
Maybe. The majority of my work crew is under 25 years old, I think most of them are 20. They arent the shit lords that NES constantly bitches about either.
They arent perfect but they're a lot better than I was.
If I had to bet the majority of the people here who bitch about "kids these days" arent exactly rock stars themselves.
Neither are my students, in general.Maybe. The majority of my work crew is under 25 years old, I think most of them are 20. They arent the shit lords that NES constantly bitches about either.
MA and most coasts are not as bad as majority of midwest and actual south. you got to travel around to see how bad it gets where you have real poverty.some NESers spend with actual "young people" at all, rather than reading incendiary articles about them.
Interesting they left out medication allergies, I was turned down from 3 branches of service for such.According to headline/story in this week's Epoch Times. The story is behind a paywall but here's a similar story from Military Times. We're f***ed as a country.
"A new study from the Pentagon shows that 77% of young Americans would not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, using drugs or having mental and physical health problems."
A slide detailing the findings from the Pentagon's 2020 Qualified Military Available Study shared with Military.com shows a 6% increase from the latest 2017 Department of Defense research that showed 71% of Americans would be ineligible for service.
"When considering youth disqualified for one reason alone, the most prevalent disqualification rates are overweight (11%), drug and alcohol abuse (8%), and medical/physical health (7%)," the study, which examined Americans between the ages of 17 and 24, read. The study was conducted by the Pentagon's office of personnel and readiness.
Read Next: The Army is Having No Issue Retaining Soldiers, Amid a Crisis Recruiting New Ones
Mental health accounted for 4% of disqualifications, while aptitude, conduct or being a dependent accounted for 1% each. Most youth, 44%, were disqualified for multiple reasons.
Even More Young Americans Are Unfit to Serve, a New Study Finds. Here's Why.
The updated figures paint a picture of what is currently plaguing military recruiters in many of the service branches, with a shrinking pool of potential service members available to them.www.military.com
MA and most coasts are not as bad as majority of midwest and actual south. you got to travel around to see how bad it gets where you have real poverty.
new england does not know what it is, when half of downtown buildings windows are covered in partially torn cardboards.
so what we have here is similar to how most of walking population on the streets of san fran would look like.
i would rather cut my limb than allow any of my kids to get into anything military related at this point. it is a plain wrong time now.love my children to experience the good and bad that the military
i would rather cut my limb than allow any of my kids to get into anything military related at this point. it is a plain wrong time now.
at your time, to be in a safe cold war and frolic with frauleins on bases was a very different world than now, when most military gets prepped to massacre its own civilian population.
the only way to get there would be draft, as it would be very against my principles to cheat draft declared to deal and nation wide emergency - and i bet my son feels the same - but to get in there voluntarily, now - no way in hell.
yeah, kids are typical to do silly stuff with their lives.It was my choice, not theirs