Almost Midnight On July 31st 2024: Anyone Going To eFA10 Their Lowers?

[MGnoob]

A federal 4473 record and a dated sales slip if you want to keep it, is plenty of proof that its legally possessed. You have plenty of legal right also to MAKE them get that data, unless they have a warrant signed by a judge for it, (and you actually have it, no one will have 4473 data......only the dealer will have in their bound book) If they are trying to use it against you for some reason.

When and if they do, they will look like a**h***s if you bought it before 8/1.

Under the current system you can't FA-10 a lower for christ sake. However in 90 days if your really gay, you will be able to because overnight sometime in October it will miraculously become a firearm I guess along with every other frame. The question will then be is the "new" or whatever registry ready?

WTF don't people understand about this? I have more people asking me at work and at the club if they should register their shit now...and its retarded.

For those that bought shit tons of lowers......in six months your more likely to get a visit from the AFT to make sure you have them and aren't selling them for profit (don't even know if you can sell them under the new bill?? ) Anyway, selling them, especially at profit...... will prove dealing without a license pretty easily, and I'd worry about that before any stupid state law.

That last paragraph is retarded. Just tell them to get the f*** off your property. You’re not required to show them anything.no should you

 

[matt2491]

For those that bought shit tons of lowers......in six months your more likely to get a visit from the AFT to make sure you have them and aren't selling them for profit (don't even know if you can sell them under the new bill?? ) Anyway, selling them, especially at profit...... will prove dealing without a license pretty easily, and I'd worry about that before any stupid state law.

ATF doesn't know how many guns you buy/bought, unless they are handguns in which case a Multiple Handgun Sales form is completed.

The background check doesn't ask for number of guns. So the only way for ATF to know anything is after an FFL audit or trace request.

 

[hennypenny]

I'm using an untraceable and undetectable plastic block to make a jellied cat piss projector and only my cat will know where it's buried.

 

[BroncoAZ]

A federal 4473 record and a dated sales slip if you want to keep it, is plenty of proof that its legally possessed. You have plenty of legal right also to MAKE them get that data, unless they have a warrant signed by a judge for it, (and you actually have it, no one will have 4473 data......only the dealer will have in their bound book) If they are trying to use it against you for some reason.

When and if they do, they will look like a**h***s if you bought it before 8/1.

Under the current system you can't FA-10 a lower for christ sake. However in 90 days if your really gay, you will be able to because overnight sometime in October it will miraculously become a firearm I guess along with every other frame. The question will then be is the "new" or whatever registry ready?

WTF don't people understand about this? I have more people asking me at work and at the club if they should register their shit now...and its retarded.

For those that bought shit tons of lowers......in six months your more likely to get a visit from the AFT to make sure you have them and aren't selling them for profit (don't even know if you can sell them under the new bill?? ) Anyway, selling them, especially at profit...... will prove dealing without a license pretty easily, and I'd worry about that before any stupid state law.

I was thinking about this when the guy at KAG was buying 20+ lowers and bragging about buying $36K in other AR stuff the previous Saturday.

 

[drgrant]

That last paragraph is retarded. Just tell them to get the f*** off your property. You’re not required to show them anything.no should you

Meh. If this actually happened I would give zero f***s and just pacify them. You don't have to let them inside, either. You have to be a rock star to attract that kind of attention.

 

[drgrant]

I was thinking about this when the guy at KAG was buying 20+ lowers and bragging about buying $36K in other AR stuff the previous Saturday.

Absolutely nothing will happen unless the guy is a gun flipper. Even then... I know one guy whose been casually flipping for 20 yrs, not at that scale but i doubt he's been visited despite the fact that i guarantee his name is in every gun shop logbook of consequence in MA.

 

[June4th]

I’m ashamed of myself for having used eFA10 in the past.

 

[Reptile]

Absolutely nothing will happen unless the guy is a gun flipper. Even then... I know one guy whose been casually flipping for 20 yrs, not at that scale but i doubt he's been visited despite the fact that i guarantee his name is in every gun shop logbook of consequence in MA.

If he follows the law he only gets 4 transfers a year. However it seems like he’s planning on dealing.

Is making $1.000 extra per year worth the ire of the state and ATF?

Unless he wants that stuff for himself, he’s stuck with stuff now that he can’t get rid of.

 

[LuvDog]

I've been going through the data that the state posts on dealer transactions and personal transactions. I'm just trying to see what they have recorded for me.

Then I can make a decision on what to do next.

 

[drgrant]

If he follows the law he only gets 4 transfers a year. However it seems like he’s planning on dealing.

Is making $1.000 extra per year worth the ire of the state and ATF?

Unless he wants that stuff for himself, he’s stuck with stuff now that he can’t get rid of.

Not sure if serious. His motives could be anything. I had regulars who were OCD and would buy multiples of everything because they could afford it. Guy might be a flipper or might also be a guy that wants to hook his friends and family up with guns for the next decade.

 

[drgrant]

I've been going through the data that the state posts on dealer transactions and personal transactions. I'm just trying to see what they have recorded for me.

Then I can make a decision on what to do next.

You would pass out if you saw mine. When the police bring it up on an MDT it has a f***ing scrollbar. I told the last guy that stopped me "dude, I wish i still had all those guns" if youve ever had any churn in your collection it will be a huge mess.