Anti-Semitic threat thwarted in Beverly

Since when are people that crazy who also have $70,000.00 laying around.

This is an interesting story!!!
 
So he was charged with:
  • Possession of a Firearm without a License (12 Counts)
  • Illegal Possession of Ammunition
  • Possession of a Large Capacity Feeding Device
  • Improper Storage of a Firearm
  • Threats to Destroy a Place of Worship
  • Willful Communication of a Threat with a Dangerous Item (a Firearm)
  • Making of a Firearm Without a Serial Number
The first 6 reference things that are clearly illegal in Massachusetts if you do not have a license or for other explicit actions. However, how can they charge him with the last one, as the serialization requirements aren't in place yet?

Additionally, looking at the picture, it appears that they were charging possession of stripped lowers as a possession of a firearm, which may be the first application of the new law in that respect.

And, what's with seizing the cash? What part of their warrant would cover doing that?
 
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clampett said:
It sounds like he was living at his parents house, so he really didn't have any bills to pay.
The news story said they searched the bedroom that he occupied.
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His father died suddenly back in 2018, he was 57. He was a decent guy and a long time customer of mine. My late daughter went to BHS with younger son. If Matthew still lives with his Mom, they live in Centerville.
 
Toast said:
So he was charged with:
  • Possession of a Firearm without a License (12 Counts)
  • Illegal Possession of Ammunition
  • Possession of a Large Capacity Feeding Device
  • Improper Storage of a Firearm
  • Threats to Destroy a Place of Worship
  • Willful Communication of a Threat with a Dangerous Item (a Firearm)
  • Making of a Firearm Without a Serial Number
The first 6 reference things that are clearly illegal in Massachusetts if you do not have a license or for other explicit actions. However, how can they charge him with the last one, as the serialization requirements aren't in place yet?

Additionally, looking at the picture, it appears that they were charging possession of stripped lowers as a possession of a firearm, which may be the first application of the new law in that respect.

However, what's with seizing the cash? What part of their warrant would cover doing that?
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The even more interesting part is they didn’t charge him with ASF for the lowers. Which means they either:

1. Somehow knew they were 8/1
2. Realized it’s near impossible to prove the date on them
3. Are waiting to add more charges later

If it’s #1 it would also be interesting as they are very very likely post 2016 lowers.

As for the cash. They could easily allege he was selling unserialized guns and the cash was the proceeds. Similar to drug busts. Take the cash for a photo op and let the DA sort it out.
 
Toast said:
So he was charged with:
  • Possession of a Firearm without a License (12 Counts)
  • Illegal Possession of Ammunition
  • Possession of a Large Capacity Feeding Device
  • Improper Storage of a Firearm
  • Threats to Destroy a Place of Worship
  • Willful Communication of a Threat with a Dangerous Item (a Firearm)
  • Making of a Firearm Without a Serial Number
The first 6 reference things that are clearly illegal in Massachusetts if you do not have a license or for other explicit actions. However, how can they charge him with the last one, as the serialization requirements aren't in place yet?

Additionally, looking at the picture, it appears that they were charging possession of stripped lowers as a possession of a firearm, which may be the first application of the new law in that respect.

However, what's with seizing the cash? What part of their warrant would cover doing that?
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None of these should be crimes and would be reversed should the Supremes issues ANOTHER scathing ruling in 2024 if convicted.

So you're down to "he said stuff on the internet."

I think he's a dirtbag. But the gun charges are BS. We all know that. If any one of you were brought up on it - or your sister - we'd be 100% defending you. You can't pick and choose who gets to caught up in the BS and who doesn't. So we're down to "he said stuff." Mmmmm. Pretty thin. As much as I dislike the turd, he has rights. It'll be interesting how this plays out.

But leave it to the NES Peanut Gallery to be all "I hope he chokes in jail - serves him right." I wonder if there were no gun charges, if they would have even picked him up at all. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

As much as I hate dirtbags, all I can think of is. . . . what happens when it's one of us? What happens when it's the Weaver family? (Oh, wait.). The ends do NOT justify the means in this instance.

But if they can legally get him on the "said stuff" and it crossed the line, good. I'll be glad he's out of the gene pool, metaphorically speaking.


Lastly - maybe it's crazy NOT to have $70K laying around. What if he's the sane one and you all are. . . . ??????
 
Dennis in MA said:
None of these should be crimes and would be reversed should the Supremes issues ANOTHER scathing ruling in 2024 if convicted.

So you're down to "he said stuff on the internet."

I think he's a dirtbag. But the gun charges are BS. We all know that. If any one of you were brought up on it - or your sister - we'd be 100% defending you. You can't pick and choose who gets to caught up in the BS and who doesn't. So we're down to "he said stuff." Mmmmm. Pretty thin. As much as I dislike the turd, he has rights. It'll be interesting how this plays out.

But leave it to the NES Peanut Gallery to be all "I hope he chokes in jail - serves him right." I wonder if there were no gun charges, if they would have even picked him up at all. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

As much as I hate dirtbags, all I can think of is. . . . what happens when it's one of us? What happens when it's the Weaver family? (Oh, wait.). The ends do NOT justify the means in this instance.

But if they can legally get him on the "said stuff" and it crossed the line, good. I'll be glad he's out of the gene pool, metaphorically speaking.


Lastly - maybe it's crazy NOT to have $70K laying around. What if he's the sane one and you all are. . . . ??????
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What you're missing in this weird rant is that free speech is not completely without limits. The issue isn't that he said something that someone dislikes (that would be covered under the 1A), it's that he made direct threats (which is not covered under 1A).

To put it another way:
  • Collecting guns, waving a Nazi flag, and rambling about hating Jews is protected.
  • Collecting guns, waving a Nazi flag, and specifically outlining a plan to rape Jewish women and shoot up a synagogue is NOT protected.

To put it yet another way, saying "f#ck Biden, I hate that old fart" is no big deal but if you post an actual threat against him online you'll get a visit from the feds.
 
Dennis in MA said:
None of these should be crimes and would be reversed should the Supremes issues ANOTHER scathing ruling in 2024 if convicted.

So you're down to "he said stuff on the internet."

I think he's a dirtbag. But the gun charges are BS. We all know that. If any one of you were brought up on it - or your sister - we'd be 100% defending you. You can't pick and choose who gets to caught up in the BS and who doesn't. So we're down to "he said stuff." Mmmmm. Pretty thin. As much as I dislike the turd, he has rights. It'll be interesting how this plays out.

But leave it to the NES Peanut Gallery to be all "I hope he chokes in jail - serves him right." I wonder if there were no gun charges, if they would have even picked him up at all. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

As much as I hate dirtbags, all I can think of is. . . . what happens when it's one of us? What happens when it's the Weaver family? (Oh, wait.). The ends do NOT justify the means in this instance.

But if they can legally get him on the "said stuff" and it crossed the line, good. I'll be glad he's out of the gene pool, metaphorically speaking.


Lastly - maybe it's crazy NOT to have $70K laying around. What if he's the sane one and you all are. . . . ??????
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The gun charges are not BS. All the gun charges are things that any lawful gun owner should be well aware of. Notice he wasn't charged with any ASF violations. Not having an LTC is pure stupid if you have guns/ammo in MA. We all got ours. The large cap can be argued as BS, but we are all well aware to not have post-ban large capacity mags. The only "iffy" charge is the serial number one.

Also if you had read the article you'd realize that your notion of this being a gun charge conspiracy is baseless. The FBI alerted Beverly due to his threats not any gun activity.
 
Dennis in MA said:
So you're down to "he said stuff on the internet."
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Per the article, he "encouraged other users of the site to shoot people outside of synagogues." IIRC, incitement to violence is one of the explicit carveouts in First Amendment law, although there may be an "imminence" issue here.


Dennis in MA said:
Lastly - maybe it's crazy NOT to have $70K laying around. What if he's the sane one and you all are. . . . ??????
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Hey, Fani Willis says her dad always told her to keep cash around and that's why she couldn't produce any receipts proving she had repaid Wade for their trips together.
 
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Toast said:
So he was charged with:
  • Possession of a Firearm without a License (12 Counts)
  • Illegal Possession of Ammunition
  • Possession of a Large Capacity Feeding Device
  • Improper Storage of a Firearm
  • Threats to Destroy a Place of Worship
  • Willful Communication of a Threat with a Dangerous Item (a Firearm)
  • Making of a Firearm Without a Serial Number
The first 6 reference things that are clearly illegal in Massachusetts if you do not have a license or for other explicit actions. However, how can they charge him with the last one, as the serialization requirements aren't in place yet?

Additionally, looking at the picture, it appears that they were charging possession of stripped lowers as a possession of a firearm, which may be the first application of the new law in that respect.

And, what's with seizing the cash? What part of their warrant would cover doing that?
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Civil Asset Forfeiture
Rico Act I believe

www.yahoo.com

Flying with cash? Law enforcement can seize your money without telling you why

We learned this is happening regularly at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport and that it can be a long and expensive process to get that money back, even if you’re never charged with a crime.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
zevana said:
The gun charges are not BS. All the gun charges are things that any lawful gun owner should be well aware of. Notice he wasn't charged with any ASF violations. Not having an LTC is pure stupid if you have guns/ammo in MA. We all got ours. The large cap can be argued as BS, but we are all well aware to not have post-ban large capacity mags. The only "iffy" charge is the serial number one.

Also if you had read the article you'd realize that your notion of this being a gun charge conspiracy is baseless. The FBI alerted Beverly due to his threats not any gun activity.
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My point is this: The press - AND THE POLICE - made a HUGE deal out of the gun stuff.

If you can charge him on the threat stuff, fine. Charge him. The rest is just BS.

Again, I think this guy is a dirtbag. But I keep thinking, "what happens when that occurs to one of us. Or one of us is jay-walkling in San Antonio and we get chased and shot by the police. . . . " Call me paranoid (and it's pretty freaking funny to call ME paranoid on THIS forum) but I'd like my hard black magic marker line of what is acceptable by the police state to be well defined and as close to their side as possible. That whole freedom and all. What did Uncle Ben say? Something about safety, freedom and perverted, er, converted rice or something.
 
not new guy said:
That or he was just posting stupid shit in his online Nazi circlejerk for the likes.
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I'd agree with that assessment if he didn't take the effort to collect nazi memoribilia. I've met way too many "WW2 Collectors" that only had german stuff. If any part of it was for the likes, it was icing.

But man, I definitely was an edgelord at 16, and probably said some nasty things I'd feel like a douchebag for if they got paraded around today.

Still though, $70,000 in cash. With all the other charges, his mother would be better off saying he stole it from her, because grand larceny is a drop in the bucket at this point.

He's never going to see the light of day for 15 or 20 years, and come out a real believer in that Aryan Brotherhood.
 

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