ATF E-Forms Intentionally Shut Down (LOL for Maintenance)

[Mountain]

Edit- According to ATF it will be up and running asap.

Appears that the ATF has suddenly shut down its E-Forms service. I'll come back with a link or two. Opinions are that it was politically motivated.

 

[Mountain]

Here's a link to a legit source:

ATF eForms System Shut Down Claims Budgeting Concerns

 

[Bonesinium]

Approvals were too fast, can’t have that!

 

[quinnjalan]

Ugh, a few weeks ago it was as slow as a wet week in Ireland, then it’s was rocket fast, now it’s down. Those alphabet soup lads are playing game for sure. I can hear the conversation now, unplug 1/2 the servers, now plug in twice as many, now let’s unplug all and see what happens! Pricks!

 

[Spartan65]

That explains why a bunch of people had 7 day form 4 approvals this week. Had to clear them out.

Totally political for sure.

 

[pavlin]

Is it just that eForms are down or entire NFA processing is on hold?
In other words are they still processing paper applications if ones are submitted?

 

[Mountain]

Is it just that eForms are down or entire NFA processing is on hold?
In other words are they still processing paper applications if ones are submitted?

Supposedly just e-forms, which is weird because that's way more efficient and I would assume easier on their manpower. Smell test indicates some sort of political nonsense.

 

[NHCraigT]

That explains why a bunch of people had 7 day form 4 approvals this week. Had to clear them out.

Totally political for sure.

FWIW, there were also some 3 and 4 day approvals being discussed on arfcom.

 

[Rockrivr1]

I just put an order for forms with them two days ago. Got a confirmation as well. Wonder if they are going to fulfill it.

 

[kro77]

Well spending measure was passed so should be up tomorrow…

Oh wait not based on fact.

 

[42!]

eForms has always had routine maintenance shutdowns, full days. I always thought it showed how poorly the DB was designed, but it's been happening for years.

 

[namedpipes]

eForms has always had routine maintenance shutdowns, full days. I always thought it showed how poorly the DB was designed, but it's been happening for years.

I have a little insight into bureaucratic databases and systems. No matter how fancy the surface might seem. the underbelly can be downright frightening.

 

[DW357]

I have a little insight into bureaucratic databases and systems. No matter how fancy the surface might seem. the underbelly can be downright frightening.

I work for the state and the database that I use is a MS access database going back 20+ years. It’s very annoying how they won’t update it

 

[allen-1]

I work for the state and the database that I use is a MS access database going back 20+ years. It’s very annoying how they won’t update it

it’s difficult to justify re-writing a “legacy” system. There’s typically little to be gained and lots of risk.

Now add in that the owner doesn’t have the necessity of having a market competitive product - and forget it.

 

[Mountain]

I've seen a lot of chatter that the ATF site was down intentionally, not for maintenance. I guess we'll see.

 

[Mountain]

From ATF's website-

NOTIFICATION FOR EFORMS USERS:​

The ATF eForms system is unavailable at the present time. We hope to complete our maintenance as soon as possible.

Please be advised:​

If you use eForms to file the ATF Form 2 pursuant to 27 CFR 479.103, you will be permitted to submit the ATF Form 2 by the close of the next business day after the eForms system is back online. This delay in submitting your required ATF Form 2 is only applicable for this outage that began at 2358 on February 27, 2024. You should check periodically if eForms is back online.

While you may submit a paper application, you are encouraged to wait until the eForms system is back online.

FOR ASSISTANCE:​

If you have any questions, please call the ATF NFA Helpline at 304 616 4500.


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@Dennis in MA , what's so funny about ammoland.com being a legit website? LOL, OK maybe a little funny...

Earlier in the week, AmmoLand News received a concerning tip from an anonymous source about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) eForms system being shut down for the foreseeable future.

 

[Dressed to Kill]

They're back up and running