I guess what I was trying to get at is that it's not the arrow, it's the Indian.
I've got some pretty "decent" pistols and I can shoot to some degree. My buddy however regularly beats me, sometimes pretty badly, with a Norinco that sports G.I. sights.
Yeah, assuming we're talking about guns that aren't broken I agree.
I'm speaking of more in a "really worth owning" type of perspective. I had a Krapber 2004 anniv edition pistol. It worked fine once it was repaired by a gunsmith, but, at a root level, that gun was just
fundamentally f***ed up. The frame/magwell was even DIMENSIONALLY f***ed up. (You had to put wilson 47Ds in a buffer to smooth the mags more before they would drop free from this pistol, LMAO) Someone should have rejected that frame, but didn't! I realize at the time that was a $600-$700 1911, but you would think they would want something thats supposed to commemorate the brand not leave the factory at being a total POS.
I'd literally rather go without than ever have the burden of dealing with something like that ever again. Or give me one of those RIAs with the shitty pseudo-parkerized finish on it. Honestly at under a grand, I'd probably end up picking the rock island 9 out of 10 times, if someone told me I -had- to buy a cheap 1911.
I'm just jaded- I've spent a fair amount of time on both sides of the counter, and seen a lot of f***ed up commodity grade 1911s pass my hands. You could take a pile of 10 guns ea brand, like 10 sigs, 10 Remington R1s, 10 smiths... 10 Krapbers... and I bet I would find at LEAST one or two guns I would reject in each pile of 10 without even having to fire a shot out of it, just on visual/felt fitment defects alone... and I'm not even a gunsmith.. and if a non gunsmith can tell your gun is f***ed up, then there's some serious problems in play. I'm not talking "milling marks inside the slide" either, im talking like basic fitment problems.
A bunch of people are going to say "BUHT I BOUGHT A (insert whatever here) and its JUST FYNE!!!!" and that's great, they probably won the lottery or got a gun that was built on a Monday. Or they don't' run their gun really hard. Etc.
If you handed me 20 grand though and said "hey we need to buy 20 1911s for these Korean war army vets as gifts and they gotta be under a grand" I would be
like "I think its a great gesture but I'm going to NOPE right the f*** out of being involved in that, because at least three or four of those guys are going to want to beat me to death with the broken 1911 they're going to end up
with, even if it's a gift! " The odds are against getting 20 commercial sub 1K guns and having at least one or two that aren't f***ed up.
Maybe if this was 1993 or something I would feel differently. We're not in that era anymore- we're in the era of Schloque- because the manufacturers figured out that a huge percentage of gun buyers never even fire the guns
they buy, or barely fire them. People like many of us here are kind of the exception to the market. Talk to joe randomguy at the range or the gun shop, talk to enough of those people, and after awhile you'll be like "jesus christ I didn't know people like this actually existed." but they do. And there are thousands of them.
-Mike
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