Boston globe Mill article

[Coyote33]

Just curious, did the town have money lying around to buy this place? Don't they have to appropriate with town meeting approval in advance? Not quite sure how they are proposing to do this. Have towns bought out other businesses they disagree with in the past?

Watch out for the out of town groups that come in and put t-shirts on chairs to "reserve" them. Make sure to show up early so the whole front row isn't already taken up. Also, if you plan to speak, make sure to get your name on the speaking list, which they usually have.

I'm surprised the Chamber of Commerce isn't all over this. Aren't they usually the ones trying to propose bringing more business to town?

 

[Spartan65]

Just curious, did the town have money lying around to buy this place? Don't they have to appropriate with town meeting approval in advance? Not quite sure how they are proposing to do this. Have towns bought out other businesses they disagree with in the past?

Yes, it’s been done. Often times at a net profit for the towns. They can probably swing it with free cash.

 

[Spartan65]

I only say that as it recently happened in our town. The town bought an old mill that was abandoned and tore it down. They later sold it for twice the cost.

It’s now a massive apartment building that’s mostly empty and a complete eye sore.

 

[free]

Yes, it’s been done. Often times at a net profit for the towns. They can probably swing it with free cash.

Oh. What is the town's "free cash" position right now . . . ?

 

[drgrant]

I only say that as it recently happened in our town. The town bought an old mill that was abandoned and tore it down. They later sold it for twice the cost.

It’s now a massive apartment building that’s mostly empty and a complete eye sore.

Yeah but in this case, if what Jack says is correct (I have no doubt it is) then they can't really do that. The town can't flip to residential because of the sewer issue. And residential is the most quick and lucrative outcome for a town trying to do some virtue signaling BS like that.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Yeah but in this case, if what Jack says is correct (I have no doubt it is) then they can't really do that. The town can't flip to residential because of the sewer issue. And residential is the most quick and lucrative outcome for a town trying to do some virtue signaling BS like that.a nice

We've been working with the town planner for a while now. It's no secret. They would very much like to change the zoning to residential and have a nice condo/apartment/mixed use complex instead an old mill on the property. To get permitted and with the sewer issue, etc. I figure that the tenants will be safe for at least two more years. Possibly more since the sewer project looks like it will a "big dig". We are not able to do it, it would take a developer with deep pockets. Someone could buy it now, run it as is and live off the NOI while they are planning for the future. Jack.

 

[Coyote33]

We've been working with the town planner for a while now. It's no secret. They would very much like to change the zoning to residential and have a nice condo/apartment/mixed use complex instead an old mill on the property. To get permitted and with the sewer issue, etc. I figure that the tenants will be safe for at least two more years. Possibly more since the sewer project looks like it will a "big dig". Jack.

Strange, because most towns prefer business over residential for the taxes.

 

[Asaltweapon]

Yeah but in this case, if what Jack says is correct (I have no doubt it is) then they can't really do that. The town can't flip to residential because of the sewer issue. And residential is the most quick and lucrative outcome for a town trying to do some virtue signaling BS like that.

Someone with a brain.
Thank you.

 

[milktree]

Strange, because most towns prefer business over residential for the taxes.

Think about the *total* revenue though, not the rate.

If that place were filled with condos, the total value would be way higher than its current use, enough that the tax revenue is likely to go up.

 

[Knob Creek]

Need to get the mill on a Historical Building Protected list.

 

[Shark_Cage]

Yes, it’s been done. Often times at a net profit for the towns. They can probably swing it with free cash.

Someone told me if a town in Mass takes property by ED they have to pay fair market value. If that’s the case, that would be a big number I would think.

 

[facecrime]

My IQ is dropping listening to this

 

[Spartan65]

My IQ is dropping listening to this

 

[facecrime]

Why did we not know about this danger to our kids, I had to cook a live rabbit on my stove to cope with these news

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

I finally read the article. I had to do a google search.....

cantankerous

kăn-tăng′kər-əs

adjective​

1. Ill-tempered and quarrelsome; disagreeable.
2. Difficult to handle.
3. Perverse; contentious; ugly; malicious.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

Poor @Junior314 was just offering his support and he got his ears slapped back by the cantankerous old man for his efforts

 

[Picton]

These people are truly amazing.

"Gentleman? Take your hat off, please."

STFU and say your piece. Good lord, Karen!

 

[Ron Jablonski]

put on my cowboy boots and assless chaps.

All chaps are assless.

 

[Spartan65]

This has FPC lawsuit written all over it.

 

[FalArAk]

Girl in olive dress who ran by camera, any closeups?

Karen's husband speaking now lol

 

[Ron Jablonski]

Will this be on YouTube or anywhere else to watch at a later time? Can't do it right now.

 

[Shark_Cage]

This has FPC lawsuit written all over it.

One can hope.

Of course it didn’t help that…

 

[Spartan65]

Groomers.

This is a great case study into the hive mind of the left.

BTW they are going to rape your kids.

 

[PATRON]

Strange, because most towns prefer business over residential for the taxes.

Yea, but if that residential comes with some federal benefits.

 

[Kicker96FS]

WOW, what a bunch of ill informed Karen's!

 

[Picton]

"The Mill is on its last legs anyway..."

Eh?

And this woman is "glad to live in Massachusetts" because there's so much red tape. I'm not shocked, but... wow.

Then the next: "I don't hate guns, I just don't want them where I live." Well. All righty, then.

 

[FalArAk]

Literal Karen's... Looks like no gun owners live in Littleton or bothered to show up to counter.

Combined with vocal fry and uptalk, good lord.

I hope Pinard isn't running for re-lection, because he is gonna lose.

 

[kingfisher]

I'm enjoying watching!

"The Mill is on its last legs anyway..."

Eh?

It's for sale, right?

 

[facecrime]

"I do not hate gun I just don't want them where I live"

 

[kingfisher]

Literal Karen's... Looks like no gun owners live in Littleton or bothered to show up to counter.

Combined with vocal fry and uptalk, good lord.

One guy did under 5 mintues ago.

 

[FalArAk]

One guy did under 5 mintues ago.

But also a business owner at 410..