can we revisit "brandishing" again, please

[whatluck]

You act like a big boy, STFU and let a lawyer do ALL the talking.

If you are that afraid, DONT CARRY.

Also, most situations can be avoided, see two examples above:

1. The mall parking, the guy could have stayed at the mall, he could have walked around, but instead decided to put himself in that situation.

2. The dark alley. I grew up in cities bigger and more dangerous than NYC. You have to be street smart. While it can't always be avoided, 99% of the time it is easy to avoid being in a dark alley with a chick and a bunch of dudes following you.

I am not giving people sh*t. But with a little more thought the two stories above wouldn't be stories.

More than once I walked around the block, or didn't park my car in areas I knew would be dark and sketchy when walking back at night.

lol im not about to change my day up because some engineer wants to play grab ass. you do you though.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Are there states that still ban open carry but allow concealed carry? I can see a situation where a gust of wind causes a karen to clutch pearls, call the cops, and straight to jail for you [if you're lucky]. If cop is scared of a 'man with a gun' call, might go a lot worse for you.

 

[M1911]

Are there states that still ban open carry but allow concealed carry?

Yes. Florida, California, Connecticut and several others allow concealed carry but ban open carry.

 

[KBCraig]

we've discussed this word and how it pertains to us in the gun community. i'm not concerned about the obvious, waving a firearm, or any weapon, in a threatening manner. dictionary def is "to shake or wave menacingly." I'm concerned about the 2nd definition from the dictionary, "to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner."

we mentioned before, an example of someone who carried concealed, was in...say, a supermarket, and while reaching for something high, their cover garment rose up to expose their holstered firearm. that was considered "brandishing" by our nes conversation participants. yeah, i guess it depends who saw, and was triggered to over react. wondering if that's still the consensus. i'm thinking a legal defense would be difficult to muster. a triggered housewife vs. a proponent of 2A doing that cliche answer to everything "expressing his 2A constitutional rights" in a non-aggressive manner.

i have been in that exact situation as above, in the market. i've carried for so many years i set it and forget it. like i'm sure many of you do. a lot of people in town know me, a lot of cops know me, so sometimes it's hard to have people, what i call, mentally conceal. in other words, they know the probability of me being armed is high without a proper brandishment ever happening. this whole situation is like opening a can of worms, no? i'm pretty sure most of you know what i'm concerned about. someone who's triggered can really f*** up your day. and there's really no defense for that.

just wondering aloud your general thoughts on this again.

You might get more refined answers if you asked it in the State Laws forum that corresponds to the state you're asking about.

Naw, who am I kidding... you could ask it in the Alaska forum, and by the second post it would be all about Mass.

 

[drgrant]

we've discussed this word and how it pertains to us in the gun community. i'm not concerned about the obvious, waving a firearm, or any weapon, in a threatening manner. dictionary def is "to shake or wave menacingly." I'm concerned about the 2nd definition from the dictionary, "to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner."

we mentioned before, an example of someone who carried concealed, was in...say, a supermarket, and while reaching for something high, their cover garment rose up to expose their holstered firearm. that was considered "brandishing" by our nes conversation participants. yeah, i guess it depends who saw, and was triggered to over react. wondering if that's still the consensus. i'm thinking a legal defense would be difficult to muster. a triggered housewife vs. a proponent of 2A doing that cliche answer to everything "expressing his 2A constitutional rights" in a non-aggressive manner.

i have been in that exact situation as above, in the market. i've carried for so many years i set it and forget it. like i'm sure many of you do. a lot of people in town know me, a lot of cops know me, so sometimes it's hard to have people, what i call, mentally conceal. in other words, they know the probability of me being armed is high without a proper brandishment ever happening. this whole situation is like opening a can of worms, no? i'm pretty sure most of you know what i'm concerned about. someone who's triggered can really f*** up your day. and there's really no defense for that.

just wondering aloud your general thoughts on this again.

No

There is no "brandishing" in MA. If you flash your shit be prepared to be charged with A w/ DW, or absolutely nothing depending on the DAs moisture count, It is what it is.

If you want something measured and logical, move out of mass.

 

[drgrant]

@greencobra I've been "made" once in public before. The kopsch didn't come and I did not go to jail. I strongly suspect that the responses are going to vary drastically depending on the location.

 

[drgrant]

You might get more refined answers if you asked it in the State Laws forum that corresponds to the state you're asking about.

Naw, who am I kidding... you could ask it in the Alaska forum, and by the second post it would be all about Mass.

Good call, i have moved this.

 

[Kicker96FS]

I never brandish but I have been known to show it a couple of times like twice while walking into the shipping room at work at 4am and seeing some tweeker giving the head shipper a hard time next to the cash register. SO I hike up my shirt and put it behind the grip and as I walk over and ask the shipper how's things going this morning, the tweeker takes one look at me and decides he had better places to be. Works like a charm and no waving or acting threateningly.