Carbine Suggestions?

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A kind soul let me shoot their Uzi semi auto 9mm carbine at the range over the weekend. It's was really fun, and I'm considering one myself. It looks like an Uzi would set me back $1500 or so whereas something like the Kel-Tec Sub-2000 would be less than $400.

I'm a MA resident so I'm sure a lot of the really fun stuff is banned, but does anybody have any suggestions for a price and quality mix? I'm a newbie to the rifle world and appreciate any advice people have.
 
I recently saw this on a post on another forum. If I had a glock it would definitely be on my list. $349 for the basic unit
http://www.mechtechsys.com/

Basically an upper like an AR upper, but uses a glock pistol as the lower. I am not sure where you are located, and not sure about the MA legality. But can be bought with no muzzle break, standard stock etc.

Another advantage is that you can use the 33 rnd 9mm mags!
 
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You can get on the waiting list for one of these... MSAR MCS - 9, .40 and .45 Allegedly, they may even ship this year, or never... [hmmm]

mcs1.jpg


These look interesting as well, don't know a lot about them though.

http://www.thureondefense.com/
 
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I too long for an UZI but can't bring myself to pay the price of admission! [thinking] But I do have a Sub 2000 and really enjoy it. My son asked why I bought the POS but once he shot it I couldn't get it away from him. You could pick one up for well under $400 new...ask you local shop to order one...the wait might be a while but it's worth it. The others can be a bit pricey like the Marlin and CX Storm. And I've heard good and bad (mostly bad) about the Hi Point. I'm actually thinking about buying a quad rail and making my S2K into an evil black rifle [banana] but we'll see, Kel Tec is having some quality issues with the rail system they recently developed. Good luck...make sure to post what you buy!
 
PS90 is a blast to shoot.. Other than that I would second the M1a..
I guess the real question is pitol or rifle caliber, i am assuming pistol..
 
Yes, I was thinking in the pistol calibers. It seems like the ammo would be cheaper, and I'd have more options when it came to ranges.
 
God wants you to have an Uzi...It's what he invented credit cards and extra jobs for....Now that you've shot one, the poser pistol caliber carbines will leave you aware that you really should have bought an Uzi... Vectors are out there for a great price...They are Uzis - built with SMG parts kits, parked instead of painted and generally very reliable. Vector is out of business, so the prices have gone up, but they are there....

www.uzitalk.com
 
No offence to any sub gun owners. This is JMO.

M1 Carbine:
Pros: Cool history, cool rifle.
Cons: Unless you get a real one, it is poor quality & usually does not funtion well. Ammo is expensive. No options for optic mounting.
Kel Tec:
Pros: Cheap
Cons: Cheap. Poor quality, limited capacity, Poor optic mounting options. Problematic. (sorry Kel Tec owners)
Beretta Storm:
Pros: Good quality
Cons: Pricey, limited capacity, too space age looking for me.

My recomendation is the Glock 17 MechTech system.
Pros: Affordable, Has top rail for mounting any optic, Retractable stock option, can use 33RD stick mags, Reliable, cool looking, No license required for purchase, Tons of options & add ons.
Cons: Requires Glock frame, but for around 800$ you can have a cool pistol & carbine rifle set up.
Since I configured this set up years back, Iv'e ben in the money at every bowling pin match. Now I see them popping up everyware. I'm going to thread the barrel for a comp when I get a chance.
 
For $200-250 you can pick up a Hi Point carbine. Not pretty, but they are reasonably accurate and have a lifetime no BS warranty. Everybody says they suck, but my buddy has one and it kicks ass. Puts rounds through it like no tomorrow and it never jams, and he hardly ever cleans it, and his idea of cleaning is 2 patches down the barrel and some oil squirted in it.
He paid $200 for it and put a BSA red dot on it about 3 years ago. It has to have 5000 rounds through it, and with the exception of some wolf steel case junk it has never had any problems jamming.

The other guns are nicer, but for the money a Hi Point is hard to beat. I will be picking one up shortly to go pound rounds through. His will keep about a 3" group at 50yards, so it's plenty accurate for plinking.
 
A mini-G would be sweet as well. Someone on the forum has one. Basically a Garand that has been shortened with a 16" barrel. It's not a pistol caliber, but the coolness factor is worth it all day. And you can still hunt with it. Even if you don't hunt, a carbine with that much horsepower is just awesome!


And it has a muzzle flash comparable to a propane tank exploding, so extra points for that as well.
 
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Iunderstand what saltydude says bu t he whole point of this is not to spend $800 or else you should just bite the bullet...as we'd all like to do...and get an UZI. I must disagree that Kel Tec is poor quality. Like everything else you buy some units need tweaking. My 2 Kel Tecs have been excellent and have lifetime warranties even not as the original owner! I had a firing pin break and they sent me a new one without a question being asked other than my address. Good luck!
 
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Iunderstand what saltydude says bu t he whole point of this is not to spend $800 or else you should just bite the bullet...as we'd all like to do...and get an UZI. I must disagree that Kel Tec is poor quality. Like everything else you buy some units need tweaking. My 2 Kel Tecs have been excellent and have lifetime warranties even not as the original owner! I had a firing pin break and they sent me a new one without a question being asked other than my address. Good luck!
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OK Carguy, I take it back. Since I don't own a Kel Tec I can't attest to It's quality. They do run for the most part. I'm just a firm believer that you get what you pay for. It just reminds me of something I would see in the bottom rack at Child World. (when they still sold plastic gun replicas).

To the OP: The thread is titled carbine suggestions. An UZI is a pistol, and you will be hard pressed to find a good quality one for 800$

I have to remember these forums have shooters from all schools of thought.
Mine is from mostly from a competitive standpoint & see no real use for a UZI other than collecting & saying you have one.
Don't get me wrong, they are cool. I'd buy one myself if I had money to burn. The only real use for an UZI (IMO) is CQB, & I don't see it in my future.
 
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For $200-250 you can pick up a Hi Point carbine. Not pretty, but they are reasonably accurate and have a lifetime no BS warranty. Everybody says they suck, but my buddy has one and it kicks ass. Puts rounds through it like no tomorrow and it never jams, and he hardly ever cleans it, and his idea of cleaning is 2 patches down the barrel and some oil squirted in it.
He paid $200 for it and put a BSA red dot on it about 3 years ago. It has to have 5000 rounds through it, and with the exception of some wolf steel case junk it has never had any problems jamming.

The other guns are nicer, but for the money a Hi Point is hard to beat. I will be picking one up shortly to go pound rounds through. His will keep about a 3" group at 50yards, so it's plenty accurate for plinking.
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+1 cheap and fun to shoot, and with the aftermarket stock ($50), looks very similar to a Beretta CX4...

cx4vs995.jpg
 
saltydude said:
To the OP: The thread is titled carbine suggestions. An UZI is a pistol, and you will be hard pressed to find a good quality one for 800$
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Wrong. The Uzi was a carbine LONG before it was a handgun. And the dollar sign goes in FRONT of the amount.
 
My mistake. I just always considered it to be a oversize pistol W/ a collapsible stock.
163 posts untill getting Scrived. Not bad odds. [rofl]
 
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saltydude said:
M1 Carbine:
Pros: Cool history, cool rifle.
Cons: Unless you get a real one, it is poor quality & usually does not funtion well. Ammo is expensive. No options for optic mounting.
Kel Tec:
Pros: Cheap
Cons: Cheap. Poor quality, limited capacity, Poor optic mounting options. Problematic. (sorry Kel Tec owners)
Beretta Storm:
Pros: Good quality
Cons: Pricey, limited capacity, too space age looking for me.

My recomendation is the Glock 17 MechTech system.
Pros: Affordable, Has top rail for mounting any optic, Retractable stock option, can use 33RD stick mags, Reliable, cool looking, No license required for purchase, Tons of options & add ons.
Cons: Requires Glock frame, but for around 800$ you can have a cool pistol & carbine rifle set up.
Since I configured this set up years back, Iv'e ben in the money at every bowling pin match. Now I see them popping up everyware. I'm going to thread the barrel for a comp when I get a chance.
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There are some bad rifles out there yes (but considering near 70 years of production history and many many manufacturers, it happens). But there are far more great guns. Both wwii era as well as the post wwii's and now there are new kahr rifles that run great.
There are also TONS and TONS of spares out there, so just about any problem can be corrected and generally pretty cheaply.



Also there ARE after market scope mounts for these, including a forward mounted scout type system. Assuming a decent rifle, the only downside IMO is the ammo cost.
 
saltydude said:
My mistake. I just always considered it to be a oversize pistol W/ a collapsible stock.
163 posts untill getting Scrived. Not bad odds. [rofl]
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The first batch of Uzis (carbines) actually had a removable wooden stock.
later on they came out with the folder..
 
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