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Lol,i missed that. I have a hard time with cheif and chief. I wrote it wrong on the last form 4 i filled out.even though i expect it would have slipped pass the atf i still refilled out the form.
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Lol,i missed that. I have a hard time with cheif and chief. I wrote it wrong on the last form 4 i filled out.even though i expect it would have slipped pass the atf i still refilled out the form.
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Ok to start with I am not trying to be an ass,so don't take it that way.I don't understand how you might think it's a scam.Example 1,you agree on an amount,and a time when he will pay the rest,You state that if he does not pay by that time you get to keep the deposit.How could that be a scam you don't send the gun until you have payment in full,and a legal place to send gun to.Example 2 is very simple I have done it a few times with buyers.They send you the money for the gun,and FFL copy.I make sure money clears,and do an FFL easy check to make sure it's real. I always set a time limit with them on when things are going to arrive give, or take a few days.I only Had a problem with a guy that I was buying a gun from.He was kind of new to that forum. I asked him if he could email me a copy of his drivers licence,so I knew where I was sending the money to.Well that's when he started saying he never had to do that before,and that he just moved so the address was not the same.I just told him OK BYE, BYE NOW.
ToddDubya
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There was just a thread by someone who got scammed despite a lengthy, detailed phone conversation and use of a USPS money order. But yeah, a phone call will weed out most riffraff right away.
Any public forum's going to face the same problem craigslist does- scammers are everywhere. Last year selling my Ruger LCS9 I had someone that wanted to send me a cashier's check, and then send a courier for pick up because they were out of the country.
^^^this...and there is also PayPal...I know a guy who got his motorcycle stolen via fake bank check...face to face = cash...shipping = PayPal...at least that's how I do things
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Paypal does not secure firearms transactions, end of story.
There are also people who will buy using paypal, then claim you shipped a brick.
I 'bought' a gun while I was overseas - seller was paid via credit card in a text message, gun was then shipped to my FFL. Picked it up when I got home, a week or two later. Some buyers do travel for work....and Gunbroker works well even from hotel wifi on the other side of the planet.
And paypal will lock you down, take the money back, and then tell you when you appeal that they are taking the buyer at face value and you need to provide definitive proof past a shadow of a doubt or you will not be paid.
stacarter
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Those aren't trolls, those are scammers. They do that on CL ads all the time. Same scam, different outlet.
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UNSUB
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A few years ago I was visiting in-laws in Germany. Bored one night, I was browsing GB just to kill time. Next time I logged in back home to find my account suspended for some reason. Googling revealed this was common. Customer service straightened it out, but took a while.
To the topic of this thread, there is a difference between a Troll and a Scammer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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hillman
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Every time I see this for something I want to buy, I think "talk. On the phone? Nah." And I buy something else. I hate talking to people on the phone. My boss doesn't even call me anymore, he just texts.
My buddy almost got conned by a guy on Armslist maybe 2 weeks ago. Guy was selling a Kimber "whatever model" for 1/3 of retail. He proceeds to tell my buddy he's shipping it to his local FFL and needs him to pay the courier. Courier website wanted name, etc etc and topped it off with your last 4 SSN lol.
Ahh that's right...I don't think I would do anything other than face to face for firearms anyway...if you want it that bad you'll drive...I have driven to different states for motorcycles...haven't sold any firearms yet anyway
I stick to selling mostly and when I buy its from a forum member who has a lot of posts if I have to PayPal
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Possibly a scam with a fake check. The account is real, it has money so it will clear but a month or two later the issuing bank comes back and takes the money back because it was someone who got their identity stolen and it took them some time to figure out. As soon as they give you the check they will be looking for the money back because their dog is sick and they can't afford it anymore, and if you give it back in clean money (A check from you) they get that cash, plus you lose it when the other bank claws it back from you.
