Does every collection need a Winchester 1897 12ga Trench Shotgun?

there are 2 of these coming up on RIA, both estimated well into thee 15K range
 
In IndoChina '95Bravo's' were issued a slam fire shotguns Stephens/Remington/Ithaca. Useful for intimidation, deadly in the hands of a skilled user, but no thanks. I'll take my M-60 any day. By the way, it's nearly impossible to even find a picture of a Vietnam era shotgun. None of them rotated back to the States. I've heard they're very pricey as well.
 
In IndoChina '95Bravo's' were issued a slam fire shotguns Stephens/Remington/Ithaca. Useful for intimidation, deadly in the hands of a skilled user, but no thanks. I'll take my M-60 any day. By the way, it's nearly impossible to even find a picture of a Vietnam era shotgun. None of them rotated back to the States. I've heard they're very pricey as well.
M60
Atta boy
 
Trust me your M4 is faster than slam fire and easier on the shoulder too.lol

Can someone please explain what the BFD is about slamfire? I've got a Savage 520 that is awesome because of how short it takes down with a cut barrel (pic). It has the ability to slam fire, but I find that doing that is just stupid. I'm conditioned to taking my finger off the trigger anyway, and a pump shotgun without slamfire is still a pretty fast firing gun.

I'm just not seeing the draw, other than it was designed before lawyers started screwing things up, and therefore may be designed better.

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Can someone please explain what the BFD is about slamfire? I've got a Savage 520 that is awesome because of how short it takes down with a cut barrel (pic). It has the ability to slam fire, but I find that doing that is just stupid. I'm conditioned to taking my finger off the trigger anyway, and a pump shotgun without slamfire is still a pretty fast firing gun.

I'm just not seeing the draw, other than it was designed before lawyers started screwing things up, and therefore may be designed better.

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Sounds like somebody has never had to clear a bunch of krauts out of a trench.
 
Can someone please explain what the BFD is about slamfire? I've got a Savage 520 that is awesome because of how short it takes down with a cut barrel (pic). It has the ability to slam fire, but I find that doing that is just stupid. I'm conditioned to taking my finger off the trigger anyway, and a pump shotgun without slamfire is still a pretty fast firing gun.

I'm just not seeing the draw, other than it was designed before lawyers started screwing things up, and therefore may be designed better.

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It's not a BFD. It's just fun.
 
Sounds like somebody has never had to clear a bunch of krauts out of a trench.
We had 1897's that slam fired in Nam too. They got plenty of use but not so much slam fire use. No trenches full of boogie men to speak of. In the jungle they were great with flechette rounds for finding the bad guys. Mr. Charles didn't like the flechettes at all. Then again he didn't like buckshot much either.

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I grew up with a Winchester Model 62: .22 pump, and it would slam fire.

It still will. My grandfather bought it, my father and his cousin and I and my kids and my nephew all collectively ran a billion rounds through it. The rifling still exists if you squint just right. "Patina" is a generous description of the finish. The front sight needs to be staked back in place, but it probably wouldn't matter since the rifle is so worn out that hitting a refrigerator at 25 yards is questionable.

But damn, it's a fun little gun. And it's sitting in my safe. :)
 
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