GLOCK vs S&W M&P

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I am torn between getting a Glock or M&P can anyone give me there opinion on both of these fine guns. I owned a Glock 19., years ago, and recently shot an M&P even though i shot only 6 rounds it felt good in hand but it tended to hit low right with me and the owner of the gun. Haven't decided to go with 9mm or 40 S&W. I have 30 years experience with handguns, I just love this forum for the different feedback and comments. I am leaning toward full size as I have plenty of carry guns. may even try it in IDPA, if every time i open my safe I could leave my 1911's alone.
 
Both of these pistols have their supporters and detractors. Most of them are willing to go on and on about why the one they like is better and why the other is worse.

I have owned Glocks for many years and like them. The mid- and small-size fit my hand comfortably and thus I am able to shoot them moderately well.

I have tried a few M&Ps and they do not feel good in my hand nor is the trigger pull (subjectively to be sure) as good as my Glocks.

That is why I choose the Glock over the S&W M&P.

Your mileage may vary and you are the only one who can make that decision for yourself.
 
I like Glocks and can't say anything bad about them. I do however shoot an M&P40c for IDPA and am very happy with it. Strictly for IDPA you might want to go with the full size and a 9mm.

Why did I choose a M&P over a Glock?

Price
MA Compliance
More ambi features (lefty here)
Newer design
felt better in my hand
Made in MA


Good luck,

--Mike
 
You know...I think that the people that don't like Glocks like M&Ps and the people that like M&Ps don't always like the GLocks.

I'm on the M&P side. I've shot the Glock..even own one. But, for the life of me, I can't shoot a Glock. Everyone's that I've tried...I group high and to the left. But if I pick up something different, I group where I shoot. So every Glock I've tried, has the same sight issue, or I have a grip problem with the Glocks.

I'm going to bet on the latter.

But, I've shot two different M&Ps, and they were much more point of aim for me right out of the box. So, I'm waiting for the M&P .45 to make it to MA, and then I'll buy one.
 
First, Glocks are great handguns, no doubt. That said, I feel as though they are overrated (especially on some of the internet forums). Glock prices in this state can be a bit ridiculous.

The M&P's are great handguns as well. While I don't own one, I've fired them, and I feel that they fit my hand better. The MA trigger is horrible but that's an easy fix. Also, with S&W's summer rebate deal, you get two FREE mags (or $35, your choice).

I'd say the Glock vs. M&P thing all comes down to personal preference as both are great handguns. Personally, I like SIG's [wink]
 
I have fired both, and based on my limited experience, I can't say that I really care much for either of them. However, tens of thousands of Glock owners and hundreds if not thousands of law enforcement agencies feel that the Glock is the way to go, so obviously these pistols have a lot going for them. The S&W MP is the new kid on the block and is making fast inroads into the Glock market, both in individual and institutional sales, so it obviously has something going for it as well. Nanerclip made a great point in his last sentence about it being personal preference. I don't think that either pistol is lacking in the quality control department, although the Glock has a track record that now spans several decades.

If it were me, I'd get the one that I liked best, and then if it didn't work out, I'd sell it and get the other one and give it a try. In the end, you really don't have that much to lose.

Personally I like Sigs and traditional S&W DA autos and the Browning Hi-Power...but those are other topics [smile].

Best wishes and good luck to you, you can't go wrong either way and if you pick wrong for you (it's all subjective afterall) you can easily rectify the situation [wink].

Mark L.
 
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Fsorrent said:
Basically....the people that suck at shooting buy M&P's and the guys that can go Glock. [smile][wink] FLAME ON !
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The late, great Jeff Cooper opined that the Glock was essentially a gun for amateurs and those cops who really regarded their handguns as tools much in the same manner as pens and flashlights.

All a matter of perspective, I suppose.

Mark L.
 
I'm kind of spoiled from shooting 1911's for years, and I don't own any "plastic" guns anymore. but for gits and shiggles...

I'd take the Glock over the M&P. I had a G19 for a few years and even though I sold it, I respect the Glock crowd because it really is a good gun.
It is like holding a 2x4, but the damn things are reliable right out of the box and tough as a tank. I think the Glock has a better trigger than the M&P too.

I've never owned any S&W semi-auto, but I've fired plenty of them. I've shot the M&P and it didn't do anything for me. It just feels flimsy to me.
The only S&W auto I ever liked was a friend's model 52. (for those of you who don't know, it's an old model that shot .38 special wadcutters only).
That thing was pissa.
 
All great advice that's what i like about this forum,It just amazing how many people are guests and won't spend the $20.00 to become a member. That said i'll probably lean toward the M&P just to get in on there 2 free mag deal before it ends in August then i can always dump it for a Glock if it doesn't work out. I'll need to go 40S&W just can'tget excited over the 9mm. Not that there is anything wrong with that caliber. A buddy of mine gave me 2500 rounds of once fired 40 S&W brass from a police dept qualification. I'll be reloading for a long time. Thanks again.
 
there's ford vs. chevy

and there's M&P vs. Glock

I look forward to being a Chevy (GM - I drive a Cadillac, LOL) / M&P guy for the rest of my life
 
M&P 9mm

My second handgun is a S&W M&P 9mm (full size, 4-1/4"barrel) that I've owned for several months. I'm still working on getting most of my shots in the black at 15 yards, and with this pistol, I started off low and to the left on target. I'm in the process of overcoming a slight flinch.

I won't talk about this pistol from a marksmanship perspective, but operationally, I have put ~500 rounds of 9mm (mainly Winchester White Box 115gr. FMJ) with not one misfire, jam or fail to eject. It is straightforward to takedown for cleaning, and I just wish I could shoot it more, as even 9mm is getting more expensive. My Mosquito (.22LR) is my primary range pistol these days.

I shot a Glock 9mm (a target model I was told) before I bought the S&W. It had a very light trigger and less than well defined sights. Jammed once on ejection on 100 rounds, and it does not feel as solid as the S&W. When you pull the slide back on the M&P 9mm, it is with authority, silky smooth and no slack. Just my two cents.
 
I really like the M&Ps, but they are real hard to come by. I'd say go with the Model 10, same basic design but much more available.

Make sure to look for pre lock, and if you can find one with the firing pin on the hammer, where it is supposed to be.



I know, I know - but still, why did S&W give it the SAME NAME. It would have been easy to just call the newfangled auto the M&P2, wouldn't it? But then we wouldn't have anything to gripe about.
 
pdm said:
You forgot 1911 vs everything else. [smile]
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that too.

Three of my five handguns are SW. One of which is a 1911[smile][wink]

my first gun was a Glock 22. i was able to shoot it "ok" - but the trigger was uncomfortable for me.

it was a little too bulky to carry in the warm weather as well (for me, I'm skinny). i toyed with getting a G23, 27, 19 & 26... but once I shot my brothers M&P40 I was hooked - and his trigger pull sucks! I went with a M&P9c and looking forward to getting a 45 variant as well if they ever come out in MA.
 
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Glock 23 vs. M&P9c is my new dilema for a carry gun.

I will be looking at thing such as:

1. fit and finish
2. Ma**h*** magazine capacity (pre-ban vs. M&P / post ban)
3. Versatilty (adaptability of aftermarket parts availalbe), I know i'm off comparing an M&P 9mm vs. a Glock 23, but it's realistic with the ammo prices!
4. Accuracy (for me anyway)
5. Comfort
6. Complete Breakdown and the difficulty level for a novice.
7. Availability of parts (I know it's a long shot, but I have to keep real for Ma**h***s).
8. Price of new vs. used on both aspects, ease of acquiring one.

More will follow***

Please be patient, as I plan on taking these guns to the range, cleaning them, detail stripping and looking for things such as holsters, conversion barrels, lazers, night sights and will test customer service for each one.

:) this should be fun - and I'm spending my own money!

*not that much money, as my brother and close friend have full size M&P 40's I can order stuff for; my brother also has a SIGMA 40 and a buddy has a SIGMA 9 at my disposal as well.

LOL - subscribe to this wacked out thread!

This is the Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord, given the oportunity to own one at a reasonable price when one of the two is BANNED.
 
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I hate to say it, but I think the Glock is going to win in almost all of your categories. And neither of your guns is "banned". With that said, I'm as anal as you when it comes to researching a purchase as I consider the "hunt" just as much fun as the actual purchase.

Keep us posted.
-Cuz.
 
I own a M&P compact and it is a decent gun. If I could have, I would have bought a Glock 26 however. I am just not crazy about the M&P. I was able to get a new sear and the trigger is now ok, not great. The factory trigger was absolutely worthless and maxed out my trigger gauge. My guess is it was around 15 lb or so.

Just a few days ago I bought a very nice 3rd Gen Glock 22 at FS. It was expensive and used but I am very happy with it. It is just a MUCH better gun in my opinion. The trigger is around 5 lb and I like the way it feels.

Another argument for Glocks are the availability of parts and accessories. I bought one of the comp tac holsters for my M&P and hate is.

If I found a nice G26 I would trade it in a hart beat!
 
this is exactly the kind of feedback i am looking for.

i share SOME of the experiences with the Glock vs. M&P.

thanks to Jneuman, I now have another Glock to put up vs. shut up. Up until I held that 3rd Gen Glock 23 today, I WAS a former Glock turned M&P Guy.

more to follow. this is NOT about M&P full size vs. Glock full size....... this is about function, comfort, concealment, "user" level report for the benefit of this board.

*TO THE OP, I did NOT want to start a new thread** SORRY IF I HI-JACKED.

M&P9c vs. G23 - :)

I am making my notes on a MS Word Doc as we speak.
 
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sureshot said:
Just a few days ago I bought a very nice 3rd Gen Glock 22 at FS. It was expensive and used but I am very happy with it. It is just a MUCH better gun in my opinion. The trigger is around 5 lb and I like the way it feels.
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Sureshot,
Keep that G22, especially since it's a 3rd gen. That's one of their best models that does it all. If it's a competition/range gun you should consider a 3.5 lb connector ($20) that will drop in very easily. That will give it a much better trigger. If I could only keep one of my Glocks it would be the G22. However, I'm glad that is not the case and I can have more than one.

-Cuz.
 
Cuz said:
Sureshot,
Keep that G22, especially since it's a 3rd gen. That's one of their best models that does it all. If it's a competition/range gun you should consider a 3.5 lb connector ($20) that will drop in very easily. That will give it a much better trigger. If I could only keep one of my Glocks it would be the G22. However, I'm glad that is not the case and I can have more than one.

-Cuz.
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[smile] I sold mine, it was a 2nd Gen. I toyed with keeping it as a "range" gun, home gun or "tinker-plinker (i.e. a combo of both) and still sold it.

However, this 3rd Gen G23 fits my hand good. This G23 is only beat by my M&P compact and my Ruger 345.

Range Report and pics will follow soon.

[smile] I guess this is a practical reasearch excercise for me [wink]
 
jay_chris said:
Chapter One:
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My initial report tells me that the M&P 9 compact has better ergonomics over the Glock 23.

My reasoning is simple:

1. Interchangable pack straps. I have med-large hands, size 5 gloves and the M&P Compact fits better in my hand vs. the Glock 23. I guess its the "ball" or "hump" of the large pack strab in the palm of my hand that makes my M&P9c point better.

2. The serrated surfaces on the M&P9c are superior to the Glock 23. I can retract the slide faster on the M&P9c vs. the Glock 23.
 
Chapter Two:

Dry fire

holy crap!

50 ea., dry fires through these beauties.

Winner?

It's a draw! LOL

The Glock is easier to dry fire because my M&P has the magazine disconnect. The M&P's slide is easier to rack (see previous notes), however, I have to stick my finger into the magazine well and depress the wretched magazine disconnect.

The M&P's trigger surface is more comfortable than the Glock. I like the hinged M&P trigger vs. protruding Glock trigger safety.

*one a side note - my M&P just broke the 1k round count so it's trigger is SWEEEEEEEET, getting better every day. This Glock only has 20rds down the pipe, so it's a little rough. (see my other posts about m&p compact triggers).
 
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buying a mp .45acp tomorrow for 400$. already had trigger job, mag discconect removed and it only had 3 mags gone through it. oh yeah and i get 5 MAGS! i cant fricken wait to get this hand gun tomorrow.

I have to say i really like mp's because it felt and "fit" great in my hand unlike the glock. i seriously hate the 2x4 feel of it and no matter what glock i picked up, i always shot high.... i moved over to the new hand gun i saw which was the mp, picked it up and went wow. felt great in my hand. rented it, shot it.... 9mm and 40 my friend had a 45, so i was able to shot it all! the 9 was a compact, rest was a full size. I honestly didnt like the compact much but the cool thing about the mp 45 is the recoil. doesnt feel like it has the "jab" or snapping. It feels like it pushes a bit which is what i like and the way it's designed seems to sit in my hand pretty low and tight which is great.

soo... yeah mp all the way, but rugars, p228 and 1911 is still on my list :)
 
jay_chris said:
Chapter Two:

Dry fire

holy crap!

50 ea., dry fires through these beauties.

Winner?

It's a draw! LOL

The Glock is easier to dry fire because my M&P has the magazine disconnect. The M&P's slide is easier to rack (see previous notes), however, I have to stick my finger into the magazine well and depress the wretched magazine disconnect.

The M&P's trigger surface is more comfortable than the Glock. I like the hinged M&P trigger vs. protruding Glock trigger safety.

*one a side note - my M&P just broke the 1k round count so it's trigger is SWEEEEEEEET, getting better every day. This Glock only has 20rds down the pipe, so it's a little rough. (see my other posts about m&p compact triggers).
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Blech! I'm glad I didn't get the disconnect! You might want to consider dry-fire with a mag loaded with snap-caps.
 

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