GOAL Issues Warning to Non-residents

[Mark from ?]

I guess I do not understand.
H.4885 section 45 insert section 129C (j)
(j) A nonresident who is at least 18 years of age may possess rifles and shotguns
that are not large capacity or semi-automatic and ammunition therefor: (i) to
hunt during hunting season with a nonresident hunting license.
Is this not an exemption for hunting?

This is what i'll be following if I decide to pheasant hunt up there.

 

[GOALJim]

I guess I do not understand.
H.4885 section 45 insert section 129C (j)
(j) A nonresident who is at least 18 years of age may possess rifles and shotguns
that are not large capacity or semi-automatic and ammunition therefor: (i) to
hunt during hunting season with a nonresident hunting license.
Is this not an exemption for hunting?

There is a critical piece of that section that most folks overlook: with a nonresident hunting license or a hunting license or permit lawfully issued from their state of residence, which has substantially similar requirements to those in section 11 of chapter 131, as determined by the colonel of the state police

There are likely very few, if any, states that have similar licensing standards. Certainly the Colonel has not come up with any.

 

[Da_lucche]

GOAL's wishes? Care to explain your statement?

"Going against someone's wishes" means doing something even though they don't want you to, or acting in a way that contradicts their desires or expectations.

You can read between the lines from there.

What possible reason would you go to MA to hunt from NH? Just asking?

I know there aren't a lot of deer in the White Mountains, but southern NH coastal has a shit ton.

Who said anything about hunting?

 

[dhuze]

Myself a NH resident, living on a MA border town has challenges when traveling. I can tell you that I travel non-stop From NH through MA back into NH and I quote: "Permits the interstate transportation of unloaded firearms by any person not prohibited by Federal law from such transportation regardless of any State law or regulation."

That could be a very expensive precedent you could be setting.

 

[Mark from ?]

There is a critical piece of that section that most folks overlook: with a nonresident hunting license or a hunting license or permit lawfully issued from their state of residence, which has substantially similar requirements to those in section 11 of chapter 131, as determined by the colonel of the state police

There are likely very few, if any, states that have similar licensing standards. Certainly the Colonel has not come up with any.

I don't even know what this means......could it mean non resident CCW?

 

[Pisgah3840]

There is a critical piece of that section that most folks overlook: with a nonresident hunting license or a hunting license or permit lawfully issued from their state of residence, which has substantially similar requirements to those in section 11 of chapter 131, as determined by the colonel of the state police

There are likely very few, if any, states that have similar licensing standards. Certainly the Colonel has not come up with any.

The use of the conjunction or separates the requirements.
1 nonresident hunting license
2 hunting license from state of residence
3 permit from state of residence
The plain meaning of the statute is that any one of the 3 possible requirements would satisfy the statute. The last 2 are irrelevent to hunting as a nonresident hunting license is required of a nonresident to hunt in the state of Massachusetts.

 

[Mark from ?]

The use of the conjunction or separates the requirements.
1 nonresident hunting license
2 hunting license from state of residence
3 permit from state of residence
The plain meaning of the statute is that any one of the 3 possible requirements would satisfy the statute. The last 2 are irrelevent to hunting as a nonresident hunting license is required of a nonresident to hunt in the state of Massachusetts.

JFC.. reading is fundamental.....THANK YOU.

I have 2 of the 3 right now and if I decide to hunt in MA I'd have all 3........ but yeah.....OR means alot here for christ sake.

 

[GOALJim]

The use of the conjunction or separates the requirements.
1 nonresident hunting license
2 hunting license from state of residence
3 permit from state of residence
The plain meaning of the statute is that any one of the 3 possible requirements would satisfy the statute. The last 2 are irrelevent to hunting as a nonresident hunting license is required of a nonresident to hunt in the state of Massachusetts.

But any of the three have to meet: which has substantially similar requirements to those in section 11 of chapter 131, as determined by the colonel of the state police

 

[Mark from ?]

But any of the three have to meet: which has substantially similar requirements to those in section 11 of chapter 131, as determined by the colonel of the state police

No...don't think so, again..its how you read it. There is nothing that i can see with OR being in there that says all 3 have to pass colonel of state police scrutiny, just the last one.

First off a NR hunting license and Resident Hunting License are EXACTLY the same except for pricing.....non one can refute that and it would pass any Statie COP scrutiny easily.

You can argue B wouldn't be the same as a MA resident hunting license...but......again...it is NOT worded that way. And How the F would Statie COP know how to figure that one out??

To me it reads this way......

A. Non Resident Hunting license OR
B. Resident Hunting License State of Residence OR
C Permit lawfully issued from State of Residence which has substantially similar requirements to those in section 11 of Chapter 131 as determined by colonel of the state police.

So if you have C....like I have a FL CCW........Id go with it might not be any good unless Mr State Police bigshot OK's it. Since to my knowlege there is no OK for any other state permits to carry in MA and there is no reciprocity, nor do I see them going out of their way to get any.............. yeah...your probably not gonna go with C. However, amazingly I do think the intent of this wording is for the State Police to OK you if you do have an out of state CCW. Not that is likely to happen, but the door is open for it.

Reality is....how this is worded if you have A OR B your fine, or A AND B....your fine and this whole thing is pantshitting due to reading failure. The only reason I give slight Fxck about this is because Im a non resident who MIGHT hunt there.

Again all I am referring to is hunting with a shotgun....if your doing more like pistol competitions and stuff...good luck. I would not do that in MA, and if I was a NR I probably wouldn't have done it before these new gay laws came about either.