M1911, I'm still with you. FOOPED was noticed at the NES shoot in Mansfield to have.... how should I put this..... Somewhat RELAXED safety habits. Some of them included "sweeping" other shooters as he used his guns.
More than one person related this to me.
Sorry Fooped, nothing personal.
And for M1911, +1
Depicts, you've got to have Fooped confused with somebody else. I've been shooting with him regularly (minimum once a month) for the last 3 years or so, and I have never seen him be anything but completely focused on safety when guns are involved.
Fooped. one of the reasons I did post that was to give you a heads up.
I do know who I'm talking about.
Some people just stay away when they notice bad habits, and some people speak up and tell you up front. It came up in context of how you were grandstanding about "IF I want to use a live pistol for a drill I will..." sort of crap.
M1911 tried gracefully to tell you it might be a good idea to use a safer plan for your "Drill"
Not only did you disagree with him, you disparaged him for his good intentions. No good deed goes unpunished!!
IF you've been noticed by other unquestionable sources as being limited in strict self-safety habits, maybe you're not the "Invincible" person you think you are.
I'm ex military, and we probably have the worst handling characteristics of most shooters. Lots of us had guns around us all the time, day and night. Things like sweeping, leaning on your gun muzzle, and people pointing guns at you while everyone is cleaning their gear is very common.
I don't mean to put you down, rather, to lift your awareness. I'm sorry if I should have just sent you a private E mail the minute I heard this. You'd think, and probably still DO think, "who the hell is this guy with the wise remarks." Well, how would you have taken it if I sent such an e mail out of the blue? And who's business is it anyway? It became my business when you started giving advice to people how to train, when you spoke out to M1911 who was only trying to help you.
I'm dropping out of this conversation now. I had been catching up on hundreds of posts I missed while I was at the Smith & Wesson Collectors annual meeting. I guess I just spoke up this way trying to help. If you want to discuss this further, you can PM me or send me e-mail.
I appologize to everyone for the straying of the thread, but you can't just drop a bomb like that and say you're not going to participate in the conversation any more. You didn't post this to give Fooped a heads up, you posted this to attack his character plain and simple. A heads up is a verbal warning at the time of the event, or a post event PM or email. This is a gun forum, and saying "I saw you point a gun at people", is like going on a parenting message board and saying "I saw you painting your kid's play room with lead based paint" to top it all off you add "and so did other people who are of unquestionable character, so unquestionable, I'm not going to mention who they are, and I'm not going to justify anything else you say with a response". There are about six people on this board who I would not question (when it comes to something of this nature). The list is as folows, Derek, Eddie Coyle, Type01313, LenS, dwarven1, and Scrivener (while I think Scrivener is severely lacking in tact and manners, he is certainly not lacking when it comes to facts). If you want to stick up for M1911 that's fine (Fooped's comments were on the harsh side), but what you said had no place in this thread, and I find it hard to believe.
Mod's, please don't lock this thread. I'd like to get this ironed out here (civilly), where everybody can see it. If another thread is started to continue the conversation, people that read this one as the result of a search six months from now aren't going to see the other thread, they're only going to see that Depicts says Fooped doesn't practice safe gun handling.