Anybody have any good information, tips, and/or ways to talk to your CLEO about getting a sign off? I was looking into doing a trust regardless but it seems now that the CLEO signature will be required for trusts also. Thanks!!
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The proposed rulemaking (41P) has been published for public comment, but is still only just a proposal. The BATFE issued a rule change proposal to the White House, on August 20th, but formally announced it on September 9th for a 90-day review period, ending December 9th. Obama is clearly a backer of this change, however ATF just [thread=219564]updated 41P[/thread], target date is June 2014.I was looking into doing a trust regardless but it seems now that the CLEO signature will be required for trusts also.
Lesson learned, every place is different.
If you need "CLEO" sign-off, you have choices. Ask the following people in this order:
1. Your town's Police Chief
2. Your City DA
3. Your County Sheriff
4. Your County DA
5. Your County Judges (any judge who hears felony cases will work)
6. State Police Chief
7. State DA
8. State Judges
The proposed rulemaking (41P) has been published for public comment, but is still only just a proposal. The BATFE issued a rule change proposal to the White House, on August 20th, but formally announced it on September 9th for a 90-day review period, ending December 9th. Obama is clearly a backer of this change, however ATF just [thread=219564]updated 41P[/thread], target date is June 2014.
I've been told that not just any "local judge" will do. If you look at the list quoted above, it does not say ONLY felony-hearing judges are acceptable.The part about judges is wrong and you are repeating misinformation that has been going around for years. Any judge that has jurisdiction in the area of the transferee meets the requirement, the types of cases that they work on is not germane to the legality.
See p-5320-8 chapter 6, Chapter 9, etc.NFA Handbook said:6.2.4 Law enforcement certification. As provided by the regulations, the law enforcement certification located on the back of Form 1 must be completed and signed by the local chief of police or county sheriff, the head of the State police, the State or local district attorney or prosecutor, “or such other person whose certificate may in a particular case be acceptable to the Director.”
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Examples of certifying officials, other than those specifically mentioned in the regulations, who have been found to be acceptable are State attorneys general, heads of district State police offices .and certain State court judges. Judges’ certifications have been accepted if the judges preside over courts of general jurisdiction having original jurisdiction in all civil and criminal cases or the authority to conduct criminal jury trials in felony cases.