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Do they chamber? If yes, then good enough. If not, it's not the trimmers fault.
If it was me, and I wasn't reloading match ammo, I'd just adjust the trimmer so the longest case I got was the max length and let the rest end up as they did.
If you're really concerned about the accuracy, sort the brass. Otherwise I'd just work around it.
I'm still new to reloading but my tri way is an awesome time saver. I did notice in the directions it clearly stated that it was not for use with neck sized brass and only recommended for full length resized brass. I dont even know the benefit of neck sizing, but maybe that could be an issue?I just started 223, the rcbs mic is a must, neck sizing with Redding, had to turn that die way down beyond the shell plate, my rounds never would have chamber other wise, the Giraud trimmer worked well even with neck sized brass, but it was all Lake City, though different years had some deviations. They will all fire safety, not match grade, but better than any boxed plinking ammo.
I just started 223, the rcbs mic is a must, neck sizing with Redding, had to turn that die way down beyond the shell plate, my rounds never would have chamber other wise, the Giraud trimmer worked well even with neck sized brass, but it was all Lake City, though different years had some deviations. They will all fire safety, not match grade, but better than any boxed plinking ammo.
I'm using a 1050, progressive, after mic'ing the cases, the variation is on the size the case prior to sizing , as was posted here previous by others, same rifle, same brass, has variations. I haven't isolated a specific year of a specific case and then removed all the anomalies and then did a progressive press variation test, why, best the ammo is already better than a I as a shooter. Will it chamber, will it shoot reasonable accurate, that is the reason I am using a progressive, not for perfection, because I want to shoot more accurate for less.This is what someone suggested on the CMP forums. Also said he thinks it's because I'm reloading on a progressive press. Claims the shell plate flexes too much on many progressive presses and I should reload on a single stage? If that's true, now I understand why so many people reload on a single stage (among other reasons of course)
What are you rifle reloaders using for a press?
Thank you for sharing a very good use for the gauge, but please don't infer, for the purpose of determining sizing die height adjustment and for shoulder and for chambering a round for a specific rifle, the case gauge has a limited use, when compared to Pistol gauge. I gauge all my 9mm, it is simple, if it fits, I don't pull it and will chamber in all my 9mm pistols. For rifle this is not the case. I would hope someone isn't basing their adjustments on a single sample of brass, that would be a very bad idea. As you point out it may have some deformations the gauge would point out.Case gage useless? Hardly. If you want to check the base to shoulder the case gages are the only ones that checks the entire length envelope. If you like case mics better, fine, but have you considered what a case mic would read on a banana case or out of square head to body? You ever get one that reads weird and when you remeasure it's fine? Rotate that cartridge on a flat surface to see if it's leaning or bowed. While I'm on this mini rant have you calibrated your case mic?
I'm using a 1050, progressive, after mic'ing the cases, the variation is on the size the case prior to sizing , as was posted here previous by others, same rifle, same brass, has variations. I haven't isolated a specific year of a specific case and then removed all the anomalies and then did a progressive press variation test, why, best the ammo is already better than a I as a shooter. Will it chamber, will it shoot reasonable accurate, that is the reason I am using a progressive, not for perfection, because I want to shoot more accurate for less.
If you want to load better rifle ammo and feel safe about it, take the rifle ammo class here , if you are close enough, massreloading.com, I can't recommend it enough, worth every $.Gotcha. I hear ya, I'm not trying to have the best brass and ammo either. I just want to make sure it's safe that's all. But I'll take everyone's advice here and stop worrying lol.
If you want to load better rifle ammo and feel safe about it, take the rifle ammo class here , if you are close enough, massreloading.com, I can't recommend it enough, worth every $.
This is what someone suggested on the CMP forums. Also said he thinks it's because I'm reloading on a progressive press. Claims the shell plate flexes too much on many progressive presses and I should reload on a single stage? If that's true, now I understand why so many people reload on a single stage (among other reasons of course)
What are you rifle reloaders using for a press?
Thanks Mac. Yes I realize I'm probably overthinking this and it's all because of this friggen tri way trimmer. I'm not trying to have cases that are all exactly the same length for some 1000 yard bench rest shooting. I Just wanted some sort of consistency with this $100 I just dropped on the tri way
I guess if the cases are safe to load, then I don't care about how consistent the lengths are and just need to move on.
I did just look at the die again and it wasn't screwed in an additional 1/4 turn after hitting the shell plate as outlined in the lee instructions. I screwed it in further which helped slightly. After resizing 20 cases, they ranged from 2.472" to 2.487" not perfect but they're below the max case length. Also this was all HXP brass. I don't have anymore PPU brass to resize until I shoot the PPU ammo and tumble the cases. But I'm sure once I do that, the tri way will still need adjustment for the PPU cases since it was set for the HXP cases.
Andrew, I might be missing something here so please forgive the following. Sizing the brass has nothing to do with the OAL of that brass. Sizing restores the cartridge to unfired "spec" more or less. Trimming is what brings in the OAL.
Yes you tend to have certain expectations when you spend more money.
If I ever get a progressive I will load my M1 and AR stuff with out hesitation on it.
I keep telling myself I'm going to buy a 650 load up all the bullets I have for M1 AR and 45 then sell the loader , if I load up all the bulets/cases I have it will take me 10 years to shoot it all!
If you have some sort of gauge measure some factory ammo you will be surprised how inconsistent some of it it.
HXP year to year also. I have some 1967 HXP that feels like it is going to stick when I resize it. ?