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Littleton Residents - Vote at Town Meeting 2/15/2023

Correct. They made very clear that the new by-law was future facing so all existing FFLs would
not get shut down over it but that doesn't mean anything if the new mill owner is legally doing their bidding
by jacking rents to unsupportable levels (which to the surprise of absolutely no one, is exactly what is happening)
 
The problem is getting the word out there about the meeting. I bet 800 of the LTC holders never knew about it.
You can be sure every anti group made sure to spread the news to their people
Every household got a copy of the warrant with a detailed explanation of each article to be voted on. If they didn’t show up to do their civic duty shame on them.
 
Every household got a copy of the warrant with a detailed explanation of each article to be voted on. If they didn’t show up to do their civic duty shame on them.
Can any LTC Littleton resident confirm they got this warrant in the mail?
 
Can any LTC Littleton resident confirm they got this warrant in the mail?
Christ, that wouldn't be that obvious! Would they? [thinking]

This makes me think of Naughton changing address and times just as a 2A listening tour was in his area. The ironic part was the Anti's knew well in advance and the rest had to find an obscure post on some site only minutes before.
 
Christ, that wouldn't be that obvious! Would they? [thinking]

This makes me think of Naughton changing address and times just as a 2A listening tour was in his area. The ironic part was the Anti's knew well in advance and the rest had to find an obscure post on some site only minutes before.
Would it surprise you at this point? Discovery could easily determine if "everyone" was mailed a warrant.
 
Would it surprise you at this point? Discovery could easily determine if "everyone" was mailed a warrant.
Nope.

It took me a second to find the thread. Which I believe he or his kind were reading here or on GOAL's FB page.
The Opening Post of that thread was evolving that night to keep up with our revelations. Read the thread. It went from a "Meet and Greet" to a $100.00 dollar a plate to ask questions at a listening event. Also, GOAL has changed leadership and location since then. Don't start shitting on them here. Matt

 
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Hoping is not going to do it. You need to be proactive and start contacting gun owners in Hopkinton. Get in touch with folks that have a mailing list of gun owners — HSA and GOAL. Get them to commit to reaching out and volunteer to help.

Good idea - did anyone do this with GOAL for Littleton? I usually see GOAL notices and didn't see this one.

Gun owners are very poorly organized in general but 15 votes is tragic.

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Correct. They made very clear that the new by-law was future facing so all existing FFLs would
not get shut down over it but that doesn't mean anything if the new mill owner is legally doing their bidding
by jacking rents to unsupportable levels (which to the surprise of absolutely no one, is exactly what is happening)
Cool down. The Lupoli Companies are raising rents for all tenants closer to market values to provide income while they do the design and get the permitting for mixed use, not to keep them very low like I did. Nothing I see indicates that they want to drive out the gun guys. Jack.
 
Good idea - did anyone do this with GOAL for Littleton? I usually see GOAL notices and didn't see this one.

Gun owners are very poorly organized in general but 15 votes is tragic.

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Yeah I get email newsletters from GOAL every Friday and was surprised there’s been no mention of this
 
Every household got a copy of the warrant with a detailed explanation of each article to be voted on. If they didn’t show up to do their civic duty shame on them.
Is that a fact?
In my town and several others, they stopped sending out that info and instead rely on citizens to hunt down what's going on in towns thru their complicated websites.
This all started when controversial subjects started coming up more and more, and its a way for those in favor to pack the meetings with like minded people.
I stopped going to our town meetings because of that BS and the fact that if it failed, they would continually bring it back up till they had enough citizens in favor at a meeting.
 
The perversion of the system with regards to these kinds of things is absurd. Moonbats always rig things like budget override votes on like a Friday before a vacation weekend to tilt the odds in their favor... in my opinion other than election day all dates for voting should basically just be f****** burned in.... in other words everybody knows them well in advance and require by law that the stuff gets posted at least 14 days in advance. No voting on mondays, fridays either.
 
Is that a fact?
In my town and several others, they stopped sending out that info and instead rely on citizens to hunt down what's going on in towns thru their complicated websites.
This all started when controversial subjects started coming up more and more, and its a way for those in favor to pack the meetings with like minded people.
I stopped going to our town meetings because of that BS and the fact that if it failed, they would continually bring it back up till they had enough citizens in favor at a meeting.
My town sends out a town meeting booklet to every home. It contains every warrant article, including a pro and con statement.
 
Would it surprise you at this point? Discovery could easily determine if "everyone" was mailed a warrant.
No, I don’t think the antis are that smart and anyway it is unreasonable to think some voters would not get the Warrant mailing.

The mailing is not addressed to a person or an address. It is addressed to Postal Patron or some such.

To wit:

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No, I don’t think the antis are that smart and anyway it is unreasonable to think some voters would not get the Warrant mailing.

The mailing is not addressed to a person or an address. It is addressed to Postal Patron or some such.
The town has to put an address on it. The address list is/was created electronically and used to print that batch of letters. Those letters were brought to the post office and mailed at a certain bulk rate with a count of pieces.

I know we have Littleton residents in here, who received a warrant prior to the vote?
 
There was some legal stuff that happened many decades ago about cities/towns not allowing shops that sold porn and such.

Courts told towns that was not kosher. But, a town could create a zone within which these stores would be allowed to operate. If a town failed to do so, then a porn shop could open anywhere in a town.

That's why many towns have specified an "adult district" IIRC.
 
There was some legal stuff that happened many decades ago about cities/towns not allowing shops that sold porn and such.

Courts told towns that was not kosher. But, a town could create a zone within which these stores would be allowed to operate. If a town failed to do so, then a porn shop could open anywhere in a town.

That's why many towns have specified an "adult district" IIRC.
IIRC that was Stoughton trying to prevent Alex's (a strip club) from locating there. I think that was in the 1970s when the lawsuit was filed against the town.
 
Open carry BBQ in the parking lot every weekend from now through Fall? Might as well make the new residents who voted for this crap shit their pants on a weekly basis. Burgers and Barretts. Franks and FALs. Sausages and Sub Guns. Definitely could find legal ways to have a field day with them.
 
There was also an adult bookstore right in Stoughton center in the mid 1980s. Lots of protests and people being verklempt over the matter. There were even a couple of acts of vandalism.

That might be the case where the court decided that a city or town could designate an adult entertainment district.

I think the place was open for about a year or so.

Alex's is still there I think. At least the building is.

IIRC that was Stoughton trying to prevent Alex's (a strip club) from locating there. I think that was in the 1970s when the lawsuit was filed against the town.
 
Most gun owners s*ck.
They all complain about "Muh right" but don't do sh*t.
Bet 90% of those were sitting at home fapping to some news about Tom Brady.

Think of everything that has been accomplished in the past 30 years by organizations around the country, then remember they are lucky if 10% of gun owners donate at least $5. How many donate at least $5 to COMM2A? ... I will bet less than 5% of MA gun owners.
A good percentage donations are <$20 but it adds up. If every gun owner set a monthly donation of $5-$10-$20 whatever, charged to their credit card every month, you forget its even there and it would make a huge difference to these orgs. I know its a cliche but its like a cup of coffee every month. It takes two minutes to set it up and then it happens automatically but people cant be bothered I guess.

There's aprox 500,000 LTC's in MA. If each donated $5 a month, (~$1.25/week or about $0.18/day), its adds up to $2,500,000 a MONTH. Even if everyone only gave a dollar a month, that a million every 2 months.
 
A good percentage donations are <$20 but it adds up. If every gun owner set a monthly donation of $5-$10-$20 whatever, charged to their credit card every month, you forget its even there and it would make a huge difference to these orgs. I know its a cliche but its like a cup of coffee every month. It takes two minutes to set it up and then it happens automatically but people cant be bothered I guess.

There's aprox 500,000 LTC's in MA. If each donated $5 a month, (~$1.25/week or about $0.18/day), its adds up to $2,500,000 a MONTH. Even if everyone only gave a dollar a month, that a million every 2 months.
I bet if just 50% of MA gun owners donated $10 per year, it would probably be more than whatever COMM2A is getting today.

But they are busy reading about Tom Brady. Priorities.
 
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