Local News 2 teenagers shot and killed during fight near Westgate Mall in Brockton

Davinci Leonard, huh? [laugh]
Not exactly an Italian polymath.

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Likely is.

My wife used to teach at Brockton High and then Woonsocket High. We were talking about the two youts that were shot and the yout that is being charged. She commented to me that when she was teaching she had boys whose name was "Jailson." Why? Because they were born while their Daddy was in jail.

And she said it was not a single occurrence, it happened at both schools.

Likely not his real name.
 
Anyone notice anything missing from the 'factors' mentioned?

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anything? anything at all?

all generalizations are false...

I’ll say it. Minority adolescents cause most of the violent crime. They’re acting out from being victims of systemic racism against them. They had no other choice than to become criminals because the system is stacked against them (it isn’t but they believe it is).
 
My wife used to teach at Brockton High and then Woonsocket High. We were talking about the two youts that were shot and the yout that is being charged. She commented to me that when she was teaching she had boys whose name was "Jailson." Why? Because they were born while their Daddy was in jail
I find this hard to believe... there is no way... that he knew who his daddy was.
 
I’ll say it. Minority adolescents cause most of the violent crime. They’re acting out from being victims of systemic racism against them. They had no other choice than to become criminals because the system is stacked against them (it isn’t but they believe it is).
Poverty breeds crime. No doubt about it. So do single parent households.
 
Poverty alone does not breed crime. There are shitloads of poor Americans who have good morals and are solid, non-criminal citizens.

It's not a race issue per se'. It's a culture problem. Perpetuated between and among themselves, as well as upon society at-large. They don't discriminate. But as it is a very small percentage of people are giving others who just happen to have similar skintone as them, a bad name.

Assuming 13% of America are POC
so that's ~6.5% males
what percentage of THEM are 15 - 25 or so. Assuming (not really but we have to have some number to go on) average life expectancy of 70, and that every ten years worth of population is the same size, each ten-year group is 14% of the total number. So 14% of 6.5% is 0.0091% of the population is giving all the other ones a bad name. You'd think the good ones would stand up to the guilt-by-association. But their culture glorifies it in song. Rape. murder. drugs. violent robbery. carjackings. lootings. drive-by and other shootings. knockout game. Being intentionally a dumbass by cutting school or not trying, because smart isn't cool somehow... all of it is in every rap song.

Single-parent households are far too common, and definitely contributes to the culture described above.
 
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When I was a kid ( under 13 ) we lived in the Brentwood neighborhood in Avon.
We used to walk to the Westgate mall all the time and to Sears as well. I remember walking to Sears to buy 45 records for a buck, and walking to the movies if we could scrape up enough money. Not a care in the world... Most of the time we would cut through DW Fields park, but walking right down North Main St or Montello was no big deal.
I remember one time my twin brother really wanted to buy a boomerang that they had at Child World. We saved up the money and made the walk. When we left. he couldn't wait to throw it. I told him we should take it to the baseball field or someplace wide open, but he wouldn't listen. First throw.. right up on the roof of Child World.
A week later we returned determined to figure a way to climb up on the roof. After a while, someone noticed us circling the loading dock and a guy came out and said "Hey, what are you doing!" Scared the shit out of us. When I told him what happened he said " Why didn't you just come into the store and tell us?" Something that never occurred to us. LOL
About 10 minuted later he comes back with a frisbee, and a red rubber kick ball and my brother's boomerang and gave them all to us.
This time my brother listened to me, and we walked to the closest school in Avon, the South Elementary School which is now the Butler Elementary School. Ralph Butler was the Principal when we went there. After about 20 minutes my brother managed to throw it onto the roof of the school... dumbass.. It was summer time and although there was likely a janitor at the school, no one answered the bell. We never saw that boomerang again.
My Mom used to take us for picnics in Fields park in the summer. They had picnic tables and hibachis set up along the bike trail and we would often go with the neighbor and their son who was the same age. Every trip included a climb up the stone tower on Tower Hill and when you got to the top saying "The British are coming!"
In the winter, Tower Hill was the best sledding in the area, except for Maybe Chemung School in Stoughton but Tower Hill was on a golf course so it was great.

In the late 70's Brockton was actually pretty cool. And it was pretty safe even for a kid. These days an 11 year old that goes to DW Fields Park alone would end up on a poster. Really sad.
 
Poverty alone does not breed crime. There are shitloads of poor Americans who have good morals and are solid, non-criminal citizens.
The Irish n-word is the dreaded s-word.

"Shanty" as a slur doesn't imply poverty, as "poor" and "Irish" were practically synonymous. "Shanty" implies FECKLESS.

Or, as my father liked to say: "You'd shit the bed and not even have enough class to kick it out from under the sheets."
 
Homicide detectives with the Massachusetts State Police and Brockton police have since sought and obtained an arrest warrant for 22-year-old Davinci Leonard.

Leonard is wanted on charges of two counts of murder, discharging a firearm within 500 feet of a dwelling, possessing ammunition without an FID card, and carrying a loaded firearm without a license.

Cruz said Leonard is believed to have fled the scene after the shooting. He is described as 5 feet, 9 inches tall, about 140 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.

“He grabbed some clothes and has not been seen since,” Cruz said of Leonard. “He is currently the only suspect in this shooting.”
I knew it!! Italian mob hit!!
 
Society has collapsed. People want to blame the police for some reason.I say start holding the parent (s) responsible
 
Homicide detectives with the Massachusetts State Police and Brockton police have since sought and obtained an arrest warrant for 22-year-old Davinci Leonard.

Leonard is wanted on charges of two counts of murder, discharging a firearm within 500 feet of a dwelling, possessing ammunition without an FID card, and carrying a loaded firearm without a license.

Cruz said Leonard is believed to have fled the scene after the shooting. He is described as 5 feet, 9 inches tall, about 140 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.

“He grabbed some clothes and has not been seen since,” Cruz said of Leonard. “He is currently the only suspect in this shooting.”

Lemme guess - his middle name is Kode. LOL


The West Gate sucked sucked 38 years ago the only time I went to it. Can't imagine it now.

Wow. One time? LOL.
 
Poverty alone does not breed crime. There are shitloads of poor Americans who have good morals and are solid, non-criminal citizens.

I disagree, you just don't "see" it as much with white poors and some other groups because they're somewhat better at hiding their bullshit.

Poverty drives shit like drug/alcoholic abuse which drives crime.

Of course the fun thing is though in America there's not actually that many poor people in relative terms our definition of poverty here is f***ing retarded. Avg American poor is like "im poor" kinda. Meanwhile they are on welfare or SSDI and have a roof over their head and still have money left to buy pot.
 
Mississippi has the lowest average income in the US and it is still better than most of Europe. We have the wealthiest poor people in the world.

I disagree, you just don't "see" it as much with white poors and some other groups because they're somewhat better at hiding their bullshit.

Poverty drives shit like drug/alcoholic abuse which drives crime.

Of course the fun thing is though in America there's not actually that many poor people in relative terms our definition of poverty here is f***ing retarded. Avg American poor is like "im poor" kinda. Meanwhile they are on welfare or SSDI and have a roof over their head and still have money left to buy pot.
 
I wonder if the fight started by someone commenting on his silly hairdo.
It was probably simply a dispute of ownership over a pair of Jordans or something equally trivial.

If you really think long and hard, what would poor urban youths have as a “good reason” to shoot at each other? There simply isn’t one.

When we were kids, disputes would be settled with words, fisticuffs, or as a last resort, getting an adult involved if it was serious enough.
 
Likely is.

My wife used to teach at Brockton High and then Woonsocket High. We were talking about the two youts that were shot and the yout that is being charged. She commented to me that when she was teaching she had boys whose name was "Jailson." Why? Because they were born while their Daddy was in jail.

And she said it was not a single occurrence, it happened at both schools.

Good thing that your wife doesn't teach in Brockton anymore. The stories of how many teachers are being assaulted at the school is crazy. One had her leg broken after being attacked.
 
A good friend still has about five years before she can retire. She is aware of the issues and the truth is that the school system effectively has no management. They certainly do nothing to protect teachers.

When my wife was teaching there, one of her co workers was injured trying to break up a fight between two girls. She was out for several months before she could return to work.

Good thing that your wife doesn't teach in Brockton anymore. The stories of how many teachers are being assaulted at the school is crazy. One had her leg broken after being attacked.
 
When I was a kid ( under 13 ) we lived in the Brentwood neighborhood in Avon.
We used to walk to the Westgate mall all the time and to Sears as well. I remember walking to Sears to buy 45 records for a buck, and walking to the movies if we could scrape up enough money. Not a care in the world... Most of the time we would cut through DW Fields park, but walking right down North Main St or Montello was no big deal.
I remember one time my twin brother really wanted to buy a boomerang that they had at Child World. We saved up the money and made the walk. When we left. he couldn't wait to throw it. I told him we should take it to the baseball field or someplace wide open, but he wouldn't listen. First throw.. right up on the roof of Child World.
A week later we returned determined to figure a way to climb up on the roof. After a while, someone noticed us circling the loading dock and a guy came out and said "Hey, what are you doing!" Scared the shit out of us. When I told him what happened he said " Why didn't you just come into the store and tell us?" Something that never occurred to us. LOL
About 10 minuted later he comes back with a frisbee, and a red rubber kick ball and my brother's boomerang and gave them all to us.
This time my brother listened to me, and we walked to the closest school in Avon, the South Elementary School which is now the Butler Elementary School. Ralph Butler was the Principal when we went there. After about 20 minutes my brother managed to throw it onto the roof of the school... dumbass.. It was summer time and although there was likely a janitor at the school, no one answered the bell. We never saw that boomerang again.
My Mom used to take us for picnics in Fields park in the summer. They had picnic tables and hibachis set up along the bike trail and we would often go with the neighbor and their son who was the same age. Every trip included a climb up the stone tower on Tower Hill and when you got to the top saying "The British are coming!"
In the winter, Tower Hill was the best sledding in the area, except for Maybe Chemung School in Stoughton but Tower Hill was on a golf course so it was great.

In the late 70's Brockton was actually pretty cool. And it was pretty safe even for a kid. These days an 11 year old that goes to DW Fields Park alone would end up on a poster. Really sad.
Pond hockey on Anderson pond off Harrison…
 
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