That's why I said "if so."
I don't think they were really out of the loop.
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Yes, they quickly realized they would lose easily on this one.Maura probably told MSP to back off - they wouldn't want us to have our day in court to shoot down their bill before most of it even takes effect![]()
DoneLTC training is back on until either the MSP gets their stuff together on the new law or other interventions occur. Comm2A's attorney was discussing details with the AGs office today and further announcements will be forthcoming. PDs will be noticed via EOPSS, most likely next week.
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If so, it's VERY instructive that their immediate impulse was let's stop it all! NOW!
You mean “was”, in the case of Donald Sutherland.Much to my dismay, like many "actors" Sutherland and his son "The Great Jack Bauer" Keefer are heavy leftists............
That’s the goal of the entire bill. They pushed through everything that they could think of to make it harder on law abiding to exercise their “constitutionally protected” rights. They got Al ost their entire dream list in this one bill.
No one was in the loop except for Heil Healy and her directives to the State Reps and Senators.My opinion is that the State Police were not in the loop at the end of this new law negotiations. And when it hit they were caught flat footed now finding out they had a new process to implement.
That's the legislature. That's expected.
This? This was the MSP. And there are still some posters here more than willing to lick those jackboots. MSP's choice this week should be instructive for those Thin Blue Liners around here.
Can you share regarding what?Comm2A's attorney was discussing details with the AGs office today and further announcements will be forthcoming.
The MSP has already announced that contrary to their original announcement, the existing course will be accepted as meeting the LTC training requirement until the new law goes into effect on October 23. That was the goal of the suit.Can you share regarding what?
I turned in my renewal for my green card yesterday. They specifically asked if it was a renewal, even though the form clearly states that.The speed with which the state police backed down is clear indication of spanking he got from his legal team
City level chiefs are being informed to tow the line to limit our ability to get cases to an injunction before the law actually takes effect.
Can you share regarding what?
Ok, sorry man. If he's a leftie he will still be voting. I see it was fairly recent, like less than 2 months ago.You mean “was”, in the case of Donald Sutherland.
No choice. If they choose not to fight, we can't make them fight. May as well fix the problem then.I kinda want Comm2a to stay away from talks with the State. Let it get to court in its entirety. You know this is just a time out till they do the really bad stuff. This is like helping the State in this situation they caused themselves. Let’s get the whole thing tossed in a court of law !
I take it Comm2A @ co have plans in case they try to turn things into a shitshow at the 11th hour come October?Not "until realistically feasable..." but "until the effective date of t he new law".
The fun thing is the new law still has LE exemptions but covertly throws them under the bus on ALL sales from MA dealers. It would be delicious if somebody goes to the LE union fags and says "We f***ing told you so. We told you they'd eventually throw you guys at least under a couple wheels on the bus but you didn't listen. Cooperation with RKBA folks likely would have yielded a better outcome for all involved ". It's obvious those union hack/shit chief people are tone deaf and selfish, EG "instead of trying to delete the us vs them mentality you made it worse, and you made decent cops look like shit by proxy. Way to go. "That's the legislature. That's expected.
This? This was the MSP. And there are still some posters here more than willing to lick those jackboots. MSP's choice this week should be instructive for those Thin Blue Liners around here.
That said, because any permit-
ting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitu-
tional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait
times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry.
Fair point that he will still be voting.Ok, sorry man. If he's a leftie he will still be voting. I see it was fairly recent, like less than 2 months ago.
Basically instead of going full retard they're just going regular retard. The situation that existed prior to this action taken place was literally what probably amounted to months of nobody being able to get a new license. The obstructionist intent was obvious in the sense of like oh hey we can block all these people trying to get guns in the run up to the election and so on.... these apparatchik f***heads know that every time they f*** up they sell a million guns, and q huge portion of buyers are new gun owners, so this was like a limp wristed attempt at trying to limit that effect.Got the email. Please explain:
After getting the carve outs I wonder how is MSP is the first agency to “Defy” the Healy admin? They only kowtowed til 10/23 which is according to the written law’s enactment anyways. Therefore they are doing nothing special in reality.
Got the email. Please explain:
After getting the carve outs I wonder how is MSP is the first agency to “Defy” the Healy admin? They only kowtowed til 10/23 which is according to the written law’s enactment anyways. Therefore they are doing nothing special in reality.
That wasn't a Comm2A quote.Got the email. Please explain:
After getting the carve outs I wonder how is MSP is the first agency to “Defy” the Healy admin? They only kowtowed til 10/23 which is according to the written law’s enactment anyways. Therefore they are doing nothing special in reality.
Duly noted that quote was from GOAl.That wasn't a Comm2A quote.
The law has both an 8-1 and the 90 days after adoption date.
Comm2A targeted the discontinuity represented here with the law not being effective until 90 days after signing, but having an arbitrary date of 8-1 which couldn't possibly stand since the State Police need some amount of time to complete the class, certify the instructors, create the administration and distribution system for the certificates to the students who take the certified class, etc.
This means that LTC applications would have been on hold for an indeterminate amount of time. Since a right delayed is a right denied, and Bruen said you can have a universal license system (Constitutional carry) or a shall issue license system, a system that is a zero issue system for any significant length of time is an infringement that cannot stand. (An example of a system that might stand, although it would still be an infringement, would be a situation where they needed to update a system so LTC applications couldn't be processed for 24-48 hours or similar. This would be an infringement, but one the courts would likely find to be a minimal infringement, and allow to stand.
Got the email. Please explain:
After getting the carve outs I wonder how is MSP is the first agency to “Defy” the Healy admin? They only kowtowed til 10/23 which is according to the written law’s enactment anyways. Therefore they are doing nothing special in reality.
Definitely she told them to fall on the sword for herMaura probably told MSP to back off - they wouldn't want us to have our day in court to shoot down their bill before most of it even takes effect![]()
Interesting you can’t apply for an LTC in your town of business anymore.Guess I’m done. No range will let me train and I will not certify someone just so they need to take a course in a few years. I am so out of this state soon
I'm not teaching any BFS courses on the basis that the student would have to take another course in 6 years. It's unfair to the student and myself.Guess I’m done. No range will let me train and I will not certify someone just so they need to take a course in a few years. I am so out of this state soon