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You missed the point. It's all about relative perception. Beto moved the goalpost way left, so now we're arguing about LITERAL confiscation... so other clowns can swoop in and say 'see? Background checks aren't so bad'
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As one commentator said, the D’s want 20%, demand 100%, and get 40%. They’ve gotten so caught up that Beto actually doesn’t realize he’s moved the goalpost into the ocean. My Constitutional rights aren’t negotiable.You missed the point. It's all about relative perception. Beto moved the goalpost way left, so now we're arguing about LITERAL confiscation... so other clowns can swoop in and say 'see? Background checks aren't so bad'
Actually we're NOT argueing about it.......which is exactly my point
i think your right on the money with that one...…..and nice dark tower reference bty.You missed the point. It's all about relative perception. Beto moved the goalpost way left, so now we're arguing about LITERAL confiscation... so other clowns can swoop in and say 'see? Background checks aren't so bad'
The fact of the matter is that there ISNT any "Discussion" about it........Beta and co are TELLING people they are going to confiscate gunz
Everyone knows that not only isnt this going to happen but that the Dem party has forever blown up their ability to assert that no one is advocating for confiscation/bans......
The ONLY thing that has happened is that Beta/Booker/Butigieg and co have pulled the covers back and confirmed to the entire voting population what we have all known is the eventual goal of the marxist dems......bans and confiscations
The ONLY thing thats changes is that the shitbag marxists have admitted what their goals are.
Fienstein, Biden, Obama and an almost endless list of dems have been trying to do this for decades without actually saying it in plain words.....
Nothing has changed...they've just admitted they are marxist shit bags
It is a promise of self defense, not a threat. Just don't try to steal his guns and you will be fine.
You're trying to assert that the goal post (discussion) has changed
The fact of the matter is that it hasnt........ which negates your assertion.....it might be more honest to assert that YOUR perception has changed.
The facts/historical record demonstrate unequivacably that the left is making the same demands......they're just not trying to cover it up anymore
You're referring to a THEORY about what the acceptable range or discussion/subject matter is.....
As per my last half dozen or so posts have demonstrated.......nothing has changed
Dems have been pushing for confiscations for longer than most of us have been alive
The subject of discussion hasnt changed........
WE have been talking about the threat/attempts to confiscate constitutionally protected firearms for many many decades........
The only thing that has changed is that the marxist that have been pushing for confiscation are no longer denying it
There are quite literally DECADES of legislative proposals at state/federal level to demonstrate this
The fact of the matter is that there ISNT any "Discussion" about it........Beta and co are TELLING people they are going to confiscate gunz
Everyone knows that not only isnt this going to happen but that the Dem party has forever blown up their ability to assert that no one is advocating for confiscation/bans......
The ONLY thing that has happened is that Beta/Booker/Butigieg and co have pulled the covers back and confirmed to the entire voting population what we have all known is the eventual goal of the marxist dems......bans and confiscations
The ONLY thing thats changes is that the shitbag marxists have admitted what their goals are.
Fienstein, Biden, Obama and an almost endless list of dems have been trying to do this for decades without actually saying it in plain words.....
Nothing has changed...they've just admitted they are marxist shit bags
You give the Dems credit for being more organized than they are. This would require Beta to be a willing sacrifice and he’s not. He’s literally trying to drum up votes by moving this far left, he is most assuredly NOT deliberately setting up a scenario to allow someone else to gain the credit for something lesser by asking for the unachievable in a plan to make the lessor position look more palatable. These guys are all out for themselves. Yes the end result IS that the lessor position will look more palatable but Beto isn’t setting this up deliberately. He’s not deliberately changing the narrative, he’s trying to get elected.You still don't understand what the Overton window is. Maybe you should go do some light googling before you keep opening your suck.
You give the Dems credit for being more organized than they are. This would require Beta to be a willing sacrifice and he’s not. He’s literally trying to drum up votes by moving this far left, he is most assuredly NOT deliberately setting up a scenario to allow someone else to gain the credit for something lesser by asking for the unachievable in a plan to make the lessor position look more palatable. These guys are all out for themselves. Yes the end result IS that the lessor position will look more palatable but Beto isn’t setting this up deliberately. He’s not deliberately changing the narrative, he’s trying to get elected.
And stop being an a**h***.
Just because I reject your false assertion regarding bullshit social theory popularized by glen beck (nutbag of the nth degree) doesnt make me "tarded".....
The fact of the matter remains
There ISNT any "Discussion"
There's NEVER been any "Discussion"
There never WILL be any "Discussion"
WE perennially attempt to have a reasoned/rational discussion about why the marxist agenda they keep trying to ram down our throats is destructive to a peaceful/free society......its the leftist/marxists that are not enguaging in a "discussion".......its their way or the highway.....
The marxists will continue to attempt to shove their agenda forcefully down your throat in the same manner they have for over 100 years
Now the left is enguaging in violence/bullying/etc to try to ram their agenda down their throat because the majority continues to politely and PEACEFULLY reject their bullshit that they've been trying to legislatively cram down everyones throats
You missed the point. It's all about relative perception. Beto moved the goalpost way left, so now we're arguing about LITERAL confiscation... so other clowns can swoop in and say 'see? Background checks aren't so bad'
The funny thing is, my original post said 'a wee bit of Overton window shifting'. Most people with reading comprehension would take that for what it means. It's not just him. It's also not EVERYTHING that is behind his statement. It's one possible factor. If you don't think that leftist know that they need to push the acceptable frame of what is socially acceptable to promote as gun control. I don't know what to tell you.
Of course with tinfoil hat on, the acceptable frame only has to be an idea that can be sold by swamp creatures to
mentally-malleable politicians. It doesn't have to be accepted by the voters/public. It just has to be a "sellable
lie" that will withstand what I would call "finger press" level of scrutiny. It's pretty obvious that these influencers
are dangerous, as they basically turn various pols into robots on this or that subject.
-Mike
Jason,
Looks like Roland didnt pick up on your post.........
Your personal perception/recollection of historical events and past discussions/media coverage appears to be profoundly different than what actually happened.......