My M&P O face

[Shotgun Scully]

Recently bought a M&P 45c. Obviously the trigger was horrendous.
Heard about the Apex trigger systems that everyone seems to rave about. But Apex offers so many trigger options.
Did extensive research and found my baby. The Apex forward set sear trigger.
Oh baby! Yeah it's that good. Turns an M&P trigger into a 1911 trigger with 4 lb pull.
I installed it today in 1.5 hrs. Not the easiest nor the hardest install but most definitely worth it.
oh oh oh oh yeah!

 

[Lank]

sweet. I am still debating a similar move on my shield

 

[Bostonbravesfan]

Why dear god can't i buy on in Mass.. oh wait i know..

 

[oldguy68]

I have Apex kits on my Shields and full size M&P.
I would factor in the price of the kit if anyone was to buy an M&P or Shield.

They are a must have for those pistols in my opinion.
They really are that good!

Wow as in this trigger actually allows the gun to fire now. WOW!

 

[jkelly1229]

I still don't like the hinge trigger but the apex makes a huge difference I will say that

 

[minininjer]

Came in this thread, expected to see your O face. 0/10

 

[92G]

sweet. I am still debating a similar move on my shield

my experience w the shield is that the stock reset and sear are better than the standard M&P models which are horrendous. personally i prefer the stock shield trigger (not the 10# trigger spring).

 

[Lank]

my experience w the shield is that the stock reset and sear are better than the standard M&P models which are horrendous. personally i prefer the stock shield trigger (not the 10# trigger spring).

yup, I have only been out twice with it so time will tell

 

[SilvaMan61]

Hows the reset with this kit? My compact could use an upgrade

 

[Retired-LEO]

I have Apex kits on my Shields and full size M&P.
I would factor in the price of the kit if anyone was to buy an M&P or Shield.

They are a must have for those pistols in my opinion.
They really are that good!

Wow as in this trigger actually allows the gun to fire now. WOW!

I know F.S. does the apex kit fully installed for $100 on M&P's 9, 40 & 45 and the Shield.

http://www.fsguns.com/ scroll way down to see the part on the apex kit.

 

[Shotgun Scully]

I still don't like the hinge trigger but the apex makes a huge difference I will say that

This is not the cheap Apex kit you get when you have four seasons do it.
In the forward set sear trigger kit you replace almost all the internal action springs, changed the sear plate, change the firing pin block and replaces the trigger with an anodized blade safety trigger.
The total take up is probably about a 1/8 in before it breaks a a crisp 4lbs.
conversly, the original hinge trigger easily had 1/2" take up before the sear break point.

 

[Shotgun Scully]

I know F.S. does the apex kit fully installed for $100 on M&P's 9, 40 & 45 and the Shield.

http://www.fsguns.com/ scroll way down to see the part on the apex kit.

this is not the same kit that Four Seasons offers. It's better x10.

the forward set sear trigger kit itself is $150.

 

[Shotgun Scully]

Reset is light but it's such a short stroke it really doesn't matter.
you can get the Apex ram installed which just provides a more audible sound and feel

 

[SilvaMan61]

Reset is light but it's such a short stroke it really doesn't matter.
you can get the Apex ram installed which just provides a more audible sound and feel

Thanks. Thats what im looking for. You need some sort of psychic premenition to know when my trigger resets. Ill likely do both. Thanks for the review!

 

[Gorony]

Reset is light but it's such a short stroke it really doesn't matter.
you can get the Apex ram installed which just provides a more audible sound and feel

So, if one had a FS install, to get the full Apex package one with some mechanical aptitude would get the front sear kit, an armorers block with a brass punch and rubber mallet, and do the full replacement per the instructions? Seems like FS installs basically just the springs? How about the striker block et al?


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[Shotgun Scully]

So, if one had a FS install, to get the full Apex package one with some mechanical aptitude would get the front sear kit, an armorers block with a brass punch and rubber mallet, and do the full replacement per the instructions? Seems like FS installs basically just the springs? How about the striker block et al?


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You have to have some mechanical aptitude and the right tools. Or pay someone to do it.

 

[Joker_114th]

Just go on youtube,plenty of how to videos on it,thats how I did mine myself,pretty straight forward

 

[Shotgun Scully]

Had to to add the clip

[video]https://youtu.be/LY-VdxwxSas[/video]

 

[babygorilla]

Meh, it was pretty easy, did it myself. Tools and some know how and some elbow grease.

 

[Shotgun Scully]

Meh, it was pretty easy, did it myself. Tools and some know how and some elbow grease.

Agreed but you have to acknowledge that some people can't put lego's together.

 

[DrBurnsides]

I have one of the M&P 45 mid size.. Perhaps I should put on my nomex suit before writing this.. I really like the gun(and I am a Glock guy) and have no issues with the trigger. Same for the stock trigger on the Shield. Is it possible I lucked out... twice?

 

[babygorilla]

Possible, my shield shoots like buttah now that I did the apex....It SUCKED before, pulling too hard.

 

[Shotgun Scully]

I have one of the M&P 45 mid size.. Perhaps I should put on my nomex suit before writing this.. I really like the gun(and I am a Glock guy) and have no issues with the trigger. Same for the stock trigger on the Shield. Is it possible I lucked out... twice?

I don't think you know what a good trigger is.

 

[RKG]

For a carry gun, I recommend the Apex DCAEK over the forward set trigger.

Unlike the Glock, the M&P is a single action pistol: slide cycling fully cocks the striker, which is then retained by a real sear. The trigger safety and pin safety pretty much protect against a momentum-based unintended discharge (I.e., dropped pistol), but they do nothing about a wayward finger UD.

 

[DrBurnsides]

I don't think you know what a good trigger is.

Ive tried others at the range years ago. One felt like I had to stand on it to get it to break. Worse than a NY2 Glock. It's why I've never puchased an M&P. The M&P 45 is a bit squishy on the reset.

 

[RKG]

The DCAEK will greatly improve trigger break and reset. It will leave the "normal" pull weight at 5-6 pounds, and reduce the "Massachusetts" 10-lb. pull to the same.

 

[breyton490]

sweet. I am still debating a similar move on my shield

I just swapped out my MA sear with the Apex Sheild sear and put in the "standard" trigger return spring that S&W uses in all their non-MA pistols. Kept everything else factory. I get between a 5.5 and 6lb trigger pull.. Just right for an EDC IMHO.

My other M&P have the full Apex FSS triggers and they are terrific. I am in the 3-4lb pull range with these guns. I have both the flat face trigger and curved aluminun AEK triggers. I prefer the curved AEK trigger over the FFT. The length of pull in increased too much for me with the FFT and the curved trigger feels better on my finger. Also the FFT safety sticks out quite a bit and is a minor annoyance from a feel perspective.

All the Apex parts are excellent and fairly easy to install.

Just my 2cents.

 

[DrBurnsides]

Alright. I hate all of you. I did the apex trigger on the M&P9. Yes it is very very nice. And I am dumb and do not know a good trigger unless I have a direct comparison.