I am upset that they raised the price on everyone
I didn't buy one, but I would be too. They made promises based on promises made to them. The customers are pissed the shop is pissed and looks bad. Not good for anyone
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I am upset that they raised the price on everyone
Considering last time I was there he complained about selling guns as fast as they come in and he would rather just "sell a few a day", like before the panic, I have no clue why he is in business. Seemed like the business was more of a burden than something he enjoyed.
I am upset that they raised the price on everyone
Please do not get upset at Old Mill Gun Shop and cancel orders already made since the increase in price is not their fault.
I am a gun dealer and manufacturer located in California. I am posting this in response to everyone's comments to see if I can try to explain the price jump. I am not part of Old Mill Gun Shop, but in reading everyone's responses and seeing how upset everyone is, I am just trying to give you all an explanation. After the shooting at Newtown, Connecticut, I am sure you are all aware that gun prices rose significantly due to increased demand. As a result, and to all our detriment, gun parts also rose significantly. I do not know what your prices are in MA, but I do know the prices here in CA, and they are not what they were. Due to the increase in prices from other vendors, all the gun dealers and manufacturers were forced to raise their prices also. We too, here in CA, have very unhappy customers that are paying more for guns now then before, but it is not because we are trying to make more money ... it is because we are paying more for the merchandise ourselves and have to pass on the extra cost to our customers, unfortunately.
Please do not blame the gun dealers and manufacturers for the price increase. I can assure you, it is not our fault. We are only going along with the prices due to the increase in demand and limited supply. Some of my customers are waiting for prices to go down to purchase their guns, some of my customers are paying the higher price and waiting for their guns or gun parts to arrive, but they realize that the price increase is not greed. Instead it is due to price increases even on our end. Please do not get upset at Old Mill Gun Shop and cancel orders already made since the increase in price is not their fault. It is just what we have to deal with at the current state of our economy. Also keep in mind that higher taxes must be paid on all items, which also drives the price up as well.
I hope this helps to explain the reason for price increases on gun parts and guns. If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me ... Global Arms (818)500-4959 or email me at [email protected]
Thank you.
Harry Kasbarian, CEO
Global Arms Inc
Regardless of the current political situation, seems like people had an agreed upon price...a $200 price increase, after the fact, is straight up bad business... Hell, we here at NES are still getting next to normal pricing on our groups buys. Maybe you should go green and take advantage of our buying power
As too John at Old Mill...I wouldnt stick up for this guy all too much. He's a gouger. Just a little over a week ago was Trying to sell a KelTec KSG for $2000 while citing GUNBROKER for his FAIR price. This place is no good, i'll never give them another penny.
EDIT: Also, if your Johns source for AR's (he considers himself a manufacturer), you might want to fill him in that your normally sourced upper and lowers are not Billet...He seems to think they are as I just recently heard him telling a customer that "ya im getting about 50 billet ones in NEXT week"
john is a price gouger,and story teller.anyone who buys from him good luck to you.I'm done going there myself.I'll drive 30 min and go to Blue Northern before i drive 5 mins to old mill
I am a gun dealer and manufacturer located in California. I am posting this in response to everyone's comments to see if I can try to explain the price jump. I am not part of Old Mill Gun Shop, but in reading everyone's responses and seeing how upset everyone is, I am just trying to give you all an explanation. After the shooting at Newtown, Connecticut, I am sure you are all aware that gun prices rose significantly due to increased demand. As a result, and to all our detriment, gun parts also rose significantly. I do not know what your prices are in MA, but I do know the prices here in CA, and they are not what they were. Due to the increase in prices from other vendors, all the gun dealers and manufacturers were forced to raise their prices also. We too, here in CA, have very unhappy customers that are paying more for guns now then before, but it is not because we are trying to make more money ... it is because we are paying more for the merchandise ourselves and have to pass on the extra cost to our customers, unfortunately.
Please do not blame the gun dealers and manufacturers for the price increase. I can assure you, it is not our fault. We are only going along with the prices due to the increase in demand and limited supply. Some of my customers are waiting for prices to go down to purchase their guns, some of my customers are paying the higher price and waiting for their guns or gun parts to arrive, but they realize that the price increase is not greed. Instead it is due to price increases even on our end. Please do not get upset at Old Mill Gun Shop and cancel orders already made since the increase in price is not their fault. It is just what we have to deal with at the current state of our economy. Also keep in mind that higher taxes must be paid on all items, which also drives the price up as well.
I hope this helps to explain the reason for price increases on gun parts and guns. If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me ... Global Arms (818)500-4959 or email me at [email protected]
Thank you.
Harry Kasbarian, CEO
Global Arms Inc
Bullshit....bullshit bullshit bullshit
If people preordered the price should be in good full standing. I can still buy all the parts I need to build an AR for normal retail pricing, as long as it comes into stock. I've bought everything I needed to build an AR post sandy hook for normal pricing......like I said......
BULLSHIT!
I have never been there but a few of my friends have been and they said they wont go back. Very arrogant and prices sucked
Just decided to look these guys up and facebook and low and behold...This shit was posted the exact second I searched for them LOL
This guy needs a reality check, HE IS a price gouger!
This part kills me "in order to stay in business we had no choice" to raise prices on AR's. Man am I glad Im not cought in this **** up
Not to mention, I frequent 5 other gun shops..he's (Old Mill) the only one with marked up insanely high prices because "thats what they are going for on gunbroker".
18 March 2013
To Our Valued Customers,
Due to the current climate and the price gouging that is happening in gun shops all across the state we unfortunately had to raise the prices on our ARs. What is even more unfortunate is that manufactures are now raising their pricing on items that were already promised to us at lower prices. Some of the ARs were promised already promised to customers and we have been put in a position where we now have to raise our prices by $200. In order to stay in business we had no choice but to do this. We will bend over backwards to make our customers happy and we ourselves aren’t happy about this. Anybody who has put money down is welcome to a full refund and our sincerest of apologies. We are embarrassed that it has come to this and we have let our customers down but in order to be in business this time next year this is where we are. It is not fair to our customers and we know that. We are committed to our customers and will do what we can when we can to make you happy.
There have been a lot of negative comments on Northeast Shooters forum and we would like to respond by saying that we are not making a lot of profit on our AR sales. It is just not true and in order to make ANY profit on the sale of the ARs that were promised we had to raise the price by $200 dollars. We had a customer that bought one of our ARs and was not happy with it for one reason or another and he was given a refund with the exception of tax. There aren’t many gun shops around that would even entertain a refund on a fully functional rifle. To be clear we have no issue with Northeast Shooters. It is a great forum and does great things for local gun owners
We are Veteran owned and staffed here at Old Mill. We fully support all the amendments to include the Right to Free Speech. If you want to trash us on any forum go ahead but if you are a customer we would prefer that you talk to us about your issues so at least we can resolve your issues and you have a fair chance to walk away a happy customer. What you say does hurt our business but it is your right to post your feelings on the matter. Be fair and give us the chance to work with you. We can’t make everybody happy all the time but at least we can try.
Thank You for Your Patronage,
The Staff at the Old Mill Gun Shop
what a coincidence
Old mill is destined to be old news in no time
as price Old Mill is not the worst I've seen...
I have a Old Mill horror story to share. I bought a brand new G34 Gen 3 for the fair massachusetts asking prices. So I bought some Dawson Percision sights, fiber optic front with a blacked out rear. I went in there and spoke to the Quote Unquote gunsmith and asked how much to put the sights on. He said 20 bucks so I dropped the slide off that night. The next day he calls saying the factory glock rear sight is better cuz it has white paint on it. I explained the blacked out rear are target sights and I wanted that on there. So half an hour later he called back saying it was ready. He them told me he broke the glock sight tool getting it in and it took longer to do so it was going to be 50 bucks instead. I went down there and Jon was trying to say that sights take a long time to put on and proceded to show me the broken glock tool. I think the kid he has doing the work knows very little about gun smithing and Jon shouldn't be trying to make up excuses for the price going up like having to file the rear sight.I told him to go on Dawson Precision website and watch the video on how to do it and he would clearly see they have to be filed for a perfect fit cuz all slides vary. I paid the money and walked out without saying another word. I think it's crazy to charge 50 bucks to put on 75 dollar sights. I will never step foot in that place again nevermind spending my hard earned money there. Moral of the story is do business with places with a good reputation not a place that is close by.
I have a Old Mill horror story to share. I bought a brand new G34 Gen 3 for the fair massachusetts asking prices. So I bought some Dawson Percision sights, fiber optic front with a blacked out rear. I went in there and spoke to the Quote Unquote gunsmith and asked how much to put the sights on. He said 20 bucks so I dropped the slide off that night. The next day he calls saying the factory glock rear sight is better cuz it has white paint on it. I explained the blacked out rear are target sights and I wanted that on there. So half an hour later he called back saying it was ready. He them told me he broke the glock sight tool getting it in and it took longer to do so it was going to be 50 bucks instead. I went down there and Jon was trying to say that sights take a long time to put on and proceded to show me the broken glock tool. I think the kid he has doing the work knows very little about gun smithing and Jon shouldn't be trying to make up excuses for the price going up like having to file the rear sight.I told him to go on Dawson Precision website and watch the video on how to do it and he would clearly see they have to be filed for a perfect fit cuz all slides vary. I paid the money and walked out without saying another word. I think it's crazy to charge 50 bucks to put on 75 dollar sights. I will never step foot in that place again nevermind spending my hard earned money there. Moral of the story is do business with places with a good reputation not a place that is close by.
I have a Old Mill horror story to share. I bought a brand new G34 Gen 3 for the fair massachusetts asking prices. So I bought some Dawson Percision sights, fiber optic front with a blacked out rear. I went in there and spoke to the Quote Unquote gunsmith and asked how much to put the sights on. He said 20 bucks so I dropped the slide off that night. The next day he calls saying the factory glock rear sight is better cuz it has white paint on it. I explained the blacked out rear are target sights and I wanted that on there. So half an hour later he called back saying it was ready. He them told me he broke the glock sight tool getting it in and it took longer to do so it was going to be 50 bucks instead. I went down there and Jon was trying to say that sights take a long time to put on and proceded to show me the broken glock tool. I think the kid he has doing the work knows very little about gun smithing and Jon shouldn't be trying to make up excuses for the price going up like having to file the rear sight.I told him to go on Dawson Precision website and watch the video on how to do it and he would clearly see they have to be filed for a perfect fit cuz all slides vary. I paid the money and walked out without saying another word. I think it's crazy to charge 50 bucks to put on 75 dollar sights. I will never step foot in that place again nevermind spending my hard earned money there. Moral of the story is do business with places with a good reputation not a place that is close by.