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Can sombody update me on how you go about legaly building or obtaining a SBR? I didn't know they were legal in MA.
That is all what I have heard, I just don't know about using new receivers (even ones registered as SBR) to put folding stocks, etc.. I was under the impression that a pre-ban was needed for that. I could be wrong...
If you register it as a SBR it can have a < 16" barrel, flash hider, and folding stock and still be MA legal.
Adam
Awesome! So for some paperwork and $200 bucks I can turn any lower into a SBR assault weapon.I never knew you could circumvent the MA AWB this way..Thanks!
Watch your words, don't use the anti's bullshit slogans. By definition an assault weapon is a select fire rifle.
For some paperwork and $200 bucks you can turn your AR into an SBR with a folding/collapsable stock.
But good luck getting your CLEO to sign.
If you are able to get a signature we also sell short barreled uppers including 7", 11.5", 14.5", etc.
Adam
OK here goes.....
SBRs are the only NFA item allowed by MGL.
Adam
Aren't SBRs and full-auto weapons both allowed with a class III license (green card)?
Lets look at this SBR preban thing in Massachusetts.
The NFA did not work to circumvent the '94 Federal AWB. How could it be used to circumvent the Massachusetts AWB when it is a mirror? It can't. The NFA does not trump Massachusetts General Laws.
You can't have a SBS (short barreled shotgun) either.
Sorry to crap up your thread, Adam.
This would be a very good discussion in the Gun laws forum.
MGL Chp 140 s 121“Firearm”, a pistol, revolver or other weapon of any description, loaded or unloaded, from which a shot or bullet can be discharged and of which the length of the barrel or barrels is less than 16 inches or 18 inches in the case of a shotgun as originally manufactured; provided, however, that the term firearm shall not include any weapon that is: (i) constructed in a shape that does not resemble a handgun, short-barreled rifle or short-barreled shotgun including, but not limited to, covert weapons that resemble key-chains, pens, cigarette-lighters or cigarette-packages; or (ii) not detectable as a weapon or potential weapon by x-ray machines commonly used at airports or walk- through metal detectors.
The problem here is I'd bet there isnt that much verbiage in MGLs pretaining
to SBRs and the like....
SBS, I have seen short brl shotguns for sale in mass by dealers,they say i just need the cheif to sign paper work.There isn't. By definition it's not a rifle or a firearm (handgun) but it's not prohibited like a "sawed off shotgun" which is a short barreled shotgun. A SBS is allowed under NFA but don't get caught with one in Massachusetts.
So by reading what can be found in MGLs, SBRs are allowed and they would come under the Mass AWB which directly refers to the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30). If the above letter from the ATF is genuine then the same rules that pertain to an "assault rifle" apply to Mass SBRs.
I have a question and this thread seems like the best place to start.-can anyone tell me what the rules are for taking an existing pre-ban rifle and converting/making it an SBR but cutting down the existing barrel.
Is the process for this the same in that you have to get BATF Form 1 approved then you can have the rifle transformed by your gunsmith?
I see alot of talk in this thread around building an AR 15 style SBR by getting a pre-ban lower and slapping on a new SBR upper. I am looking at doing this with a pre-ban mini-14 and adding one of these stocks-see attached pic