Price check on a Colt AR

[EddieCoyle]

I have a chance to buy a Colt AR marked "Sporter" and "HBAR Match" for $1000. Good deal or not?

 

[SKS Ray]

I'd get it.

 

[EddieCoyle]

Any idea what they're worth? I just bought an AR and I'm not necessarily in the market for another, but if this is a really good deal, I don't want to pass it up. The rifle is like new, with only a couple hundred rounds through it.

 

[dreppucci007]

Do it...Wait, preban or not?

 

[EddieCoyle]

Do it...Wait, preban or not?

Good question. How can you tell?

Any idea what it is worth either way?

 

[SKS Ray]

I'm guessing it depends on the serial number for date. My Father picked up a Colt AR15 A2 HBAR Sporter with an upper with barrel stamping CMP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR. I'm guessing it matches up although theres some wobble between the lower and upper. Price was $995 but he got it for a bit less I think.
BTW, anyone know what the stamping on the barrel means?

 

[andy t]

I thing if it's preban in a good/very good condition, that's a good deal.
Milsurp, I don't know what CMP means, 5.56 NATO is the caliber and 1/7 is the twist of the rifling in the barrel. HBAR probably meanst it's the heavy barrel version.

Andrew.

 

[dreppucci007]

Good question. How can you tell?

Any idea what it is worth either way?

I guess the only TRUE way would be to check the serial number...We may even have a Colt Preban serial number thread here somewhere. Other ways would be (assuming the rifle is already in MA) checking the "extra evil" components like pistol grip, bayo lug, flash suppressor, etc.

If it's a preban, no question about it. If it's not, if it's in the shape you say it is, it's probably worth it as well. You can't get NEW Colt rifles anymore, so a Colt AR (preban or not) would be nice to have. The quality is always nice, too

 

[dreppucci007]

BTW, anyone know what the stamping on the barrel means?

CMP = Chrome Moly Plating
5.56 NATO = Caliber
1/7 = Barrel twist

 

[SKS Ray]

Yeah I figured the caliber and twist part, but the CMP threw me. I thought it meant Civilian Marksmanship Program too but the last line of the M is part of the P if that makes any diference. I was also thinking the HBAR meant it was the correct upper but the wobble in the fit makes me think otheriwse.

 

[dreppucci007]

Yeah I figured the caliber and twist part, but the CMP threw me. I thought it meant Civilian Marksmanship Program too but the last line of the M is part of the P if that makes any diference. I was also thinking the HBAR meant it was the correct upper but the wobble in the fit makes me think otheriwse.

HBAR just means "Heavy Barrel"

 

[SKS Ray]

Thanks for the input. I'll have to get the rifle I'm talking about to someone who knows AR types so they can get an idea if its still in original configuration or not. Maybe at the next NES shoot.
As for the rifle you're talking about Eddie, I'd get it. At the very least if its not a rarity you can always turn around and sell it for what you paid if not more with the buying frenzy thats picking up. If not here, theres gotta be a site with Colt serial number info out there.

 

[LoginName]

"C MP" = Chrome Moly Plating" = Chrome Bore

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIID2b123.html

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=304266

Colt S/Ns ...

http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/serialNumberList.html

http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13006


Price check...

http://www.gunbroker.com

http://www.gunsamerica.com


Pre-ban = good deal

Post-ban = no big deal

IMHO... Colts are nice, (they always fetch a higher asking price), but when it comes down to it, the extra you're paying for is the brand name and pony logo stamped on the receiver.

 

[dreppucci007]

"C MP" = Chrome Moly Plating" = Chrome Bore

Thank you...I knew Civilian Marksmanship Program sounded wrong, but it's all I could think of at 1am

 

[Paulm]

This is a great resource for checking Colt serial numbers. I have found it accurate on two occasion as confirmed by a quick phone call to Colt.

http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/ar15serial.html

Good Luck

Paul

 

[Tweed]

I just bought an AR and I'm not necessarily in the market for another, but ...

sounds like the start of Black Rifle Disease! you can't have just one.

 

[bpm990d]

I'm pretty sure that CMP on the barrel means the it is a Colt barrel that has been examined with a Magnetic Particle machine for flaws in the barrel. Thus the C MP


B

 

[dreppucci007]

I'm pretty sure that CMP on the barrel means the it is a Colt barrel that has been examined with a Magnetic Particle machine for flaws in the barrel. Thus the C MP


B

Just Googled it...You are correct.

http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/barrelsbolts/

 

[SKS Ray]

You people rock.

 

[FalArAk]

CMP = Chrome Moly Plating
5.56 NATO = Caliber
1/7 = Barrel twist

CMP means Colt Magnet Particle or something,basically means the BBL was checked at Colt for microscopic flaws.


ETAops,seen CMP was already corrected.

 

[drgrant]

If it has an FH on it (birdcage) it's probably a preban, although theres always
the possibility that someone swapped the uppers or something. Upper
should be marked CMT, etc. Checking the SN should be easy
enough, though.

The only Colts I don't like are the "retro" jobs with the triangular handguards,
because many of those had a 1/12 twist barrel on them.

You will find when doing research that colt pricing varies wildly. If the gun
is in good condition they almost always fetch over a grand, but it depends
on the "audience" the gun is being sold to.

-Mike