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Picked up a 100 round value pack @ Wallyworld in Rindge NH. All 100 looked & fired fine.
An update on my situation from post #82:
UPS picked up the ammo on 12/21/10.
Winchester received the ammo on 1/3, after they were closed from 12/23 to 1/3. I called on 1/6 or 1/7 and left a message asking for an update.
Got a return message asking for a week's time so the technician can review the ammo (why does it take a week to open a box and look at the junk inside?).
Called back on 1/17 or 1/18 and left another message with their customer service department, no return call. Today, left a message directly for the rep I had spoken with over 10 days ago, awaiting return call.
Any updates on this?
I spoke with Sheryl at Winchester yesterday, the tech finally finished his research/analysis on the 25th. She said it was excessive primer lacquer on the case walls... Supposed to be getting a letter in the mail and then they're shipping out replacement ammo at the end of this week or the start of next week.
FWIW- Federal came out with a 100rd VP thats close to 3 dollars cheaper than WWB.
One NH Walmart said that it was going to be a staple item Let's hope it's true!If you can find it. WalMart had it for a brief period but they said it was a limited time thing.
Similar experience here -- a little dirty, but they mostly look ok. However, I did find a 50rd box that I bought a couple of months ago (hiding @ the bottom of an ammo can), and it's in much worse shape. Pretty dirty, some with red paint (WWC stamped -- perhaps sealant?) on them, and just about all seem to have experienced a somewhat violent priming process. There's a pronounced off-center imprint around the primer pockets (presumably from a misaligned/adjusted primer ram).
I'll post pics when I can. Is it worth contacting Winchester?
My camera's macro sucks, but I think you can see what I mean.
Not sure what deals people are getting on this stuff, but I have been finding cheaper ammo without the problems that the WWB stuff has been having. My dollars are going elsewhere.
That off center imprint is from a crimping machine. The ammo in that pic has crimped primer pockets, that looks like 9mm NATO ball ammo. (Military type 9mm is usually crimped).
-Mike
I agree... WWBs price is starting to suck, too, at $25 for 100 rounds. 9mm can still be had for about 10 bucks a box/50 in bulk if one looks around hard enough. The best deal going right now is the Federal 100 round val packs for $20 at walmart, if you can find them. I'm sure anyone with a brain cleans those out the moment they see them. That fed champion stuff has a hell of a flash, though.
-Mike
I agree... WWBs price is starting to suck, too, at $25 for 100 rounds. 9mm can still be had for about 10 bucks a box/50 in bulk if one looks around hard enough. The best deal going right now is the Federal 100 round val packs for $20 at walmart, if you can find them. I'm sure anyone with a brain cleans those out the moment they see them. That fed champion stuff has a hell of a flash, though.
-Mike
Walmart in Hudson MA had the Federal 100 packs the other day. I am hesitant about their products now, because I bought a box of .45 ACP and several of the the bullets were seated extremely low in the cartridge.
I emailed their customer service and they said to send it back, but I wasn't given any RMA number or anything official, so I'm concerned that they will just ignore me after I send it to them.