Russian troops to receive cutting-edge small arms The new weapons will include “the best machine pistol in the world,” arms manufacturer Kalashnikov

[Reptile]

Russian troops will receive cutting-edge weapons, including PPK-20 submachine guns and SVCh designated marksman rifles, by the end of the year, Kalashnikov Group announced on Sunday.

“We believe it is the best machine pistol in the world for the next 20 years,” the head of the famed arms manufacturer, Alan Lushnikov, told journalists, describing the PPK-20. Data provided by the company indicates that it is capable of firing 800 rounds per minute. According to Russian media, bullets fired from the gun have a velocity of nearly 470 meters per second and are capable of penetrating IIIA level body armor – one of the highest armor classes for concealable, lightweight soft protection.

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Russian troops to receive cutting-edge small arms

Russian troops will be equipped with cutting-edge small arms this year, arms manufacturer Kalashnikov has said

www.rt.com

It's late and I aint got the time...

Where can I get one of these???

 

[MadatMarek]

Head to the Ukraine?

 

[Boghog1]

470 mps is 1,542 fps, isn't that .357 sig speeds?

 

[yogi]

I can barely lug a few hundred rounds to the range....800 rounds per minute would bankrupt me

 

[PatMcD]

Those idiots think every weapon system they create is "the best in the world".

 

[fencer]

Looks like they just cut a foot of each end of an AK. But what caliber is it in?

 

[pastera]

Looks like they just cut a foot of each end of an AK. But what caliber is it in?

PPK-20 Submachine Gun | Military-Today.com

The PPK-20 is a recent Russian submachine gun. It is a further development of the PP-90-01 Vityaz, which is used by the Russian FSB security agency and some other law enforcement forces.

www.military-today.com

9x19

 

[fencer]

PPK-20 Submachine Gun | Military-Today.com

The PPK-20 is a recent Russian submachine gun. It is a further development of the PP-90-01 Vityaz, which is used by the Russian FSB security agency and some other law enforcement forces.

www.military-today.com

9x19

That's kinda what I figured, based on the velocity.
Not sure what makes this any better than SMG's from other major manufacturers like HK or Sig.

 

[groundscrapers]

KP-9 Pistol

Explore Kalashnikov USA KP-9 Pistol and other firearms and tactical accessories at Kalashnikov USA. Russian heritage. American Ingenuity.

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[rep308]

 

[Broc]

That's kinda what I figured, based on the velocity.
Not sure what makes this any better than SMG's from other major manufacturers like HK or Sig.

It is not a POS.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

Those idiots think every weapon system they create is "the best in the world".

rt.com is owned and operated by the Russian government. Their livelihoods and possibly their lives depend on publishing what Putin wants them to publish.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

470 mps is 1,542 fps, isn't that .357 sig speeds?

Yes, but it's with the 84 grain 7n21 round out of a 7.1" barrel -- nothing terribly new there. The PPK-20 is a blowback without last bolt hold open. Operationally, it could very well be world class, but it's still got the ballistics one would expect of a 9mm SMG.

 

[Blackmore]

You'll still be giving these weapons to poorly trained, unmotivated conscripts. Might as well be Mosins.

 

[paul73]

470 mps is 1,542 fps, isn't that .357 sig speeds?

dunno what kind of a BS that is, as ppk-20 shoots standard 9x19 parabellum.
"bullets fired from the gun have a velocity of nearly 470 meters per second and are capable of penetrating IIIA level body armor – one of the highest armor classes for concealable, lightweight soft protection" - yeah, right.

i think it was supposed to be about the SVCh - that is indeed capable of that.

Chukavin SVCh

The Chukavin SVCh is a designated marksman rifle developed by Kalashnikov Concern. It was unveiled in 2016 under the name SVK. The rifle is the prototype of a new precision weapon system designed by Kalashnikov Concern. The rifle was developed for Russian Special Forces intended for engagement...

guns.fandom.com

 

[SFC13557]

"rt.com is owned and operated by the Russian government. Their livelihoods and possibly their lives depend on publishing what Putin wants them to publish."

"You'll still be giving these weapons to poorly trained, unmotivated conscripts. Might as well be Mosins."

Correct on both statements.

 

[Dench]

Leave it to the Russians to bring a f***ing 9x19 subgun to a theatre where everyone is wearing body armor.

In fantasy land, sure, 9x19 will penetrate what soldiers wear reliably. In reality... well....

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

Haven't direct blowback 9mm AK-ish SMG's been around for a while now, or am I imagining things?

That said, "best" is questionable. I'd concede that this is probably the "best", if "best" means easily produced in third world factories for like 1/6 the cost of a B&T. But there are far superior SMG's on the market. Plus, if someone wants to carry a small AK-ish rifle, wouldn't one want a Krink in a warzone?

 

[Dench]

Let's sit back and soak up the magic of this thread...

-Post is made by notorious conspiracy theory member
-Post is from RT, a notorious shit tier propaganda machine from Russia
-The gun is probably ~30+ years old when compared to peers
-The gun has next to zero role in modern combat units outside of drivers, tank crews, shit like that.
-OP wants one.

 

[friscoeast]

I want one too!

 

[MAGA99]

Looks like an AR-9 bit utilizing an AK pattern receiver.

At least an AR-9 can take glock mags....

 

[E.Stoner]

lol whatever. Cool story, Ivan.

 

[CRSIII]

Does it come in.40?

 

[Dr_Scholl]

Those idiots think every weapon system they create is "the best in the world".

Not only is it a million times better than anything the West has, they built it at a fraction of the price.

 

[Dadstoys]

It's only worth something if you can hit anything with it .
That and an empty mag in about 2 seconds .
Meh.

 

[DispositionMatrix]

Gee. Will they be as great as the AK-12/15/19?

 

[G4Y4HK]

So the moved the helical mag from the PP-19 bizon to an upgraded banana clip.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Leave it to the Russians to bring a f***ing 9x19 subgun to a theatre where everyone is wearing body armor.

In fantasy land, sure, 9x19 will penetrate what soldiers wear reliably. In reality... well....

9x19 works extremely well against unarmored civilians. Just like the Japanese in WW2 using with great effectiveness against Chinese civilians 'anemic' rounds by American standards.

 

[P51MA]

470 mps is 1,542 fps, isn't that .357 sig speeds?

The article claims 500meters per second(1600+ fps), and a quick google suggests it’s a 9x19 7.2” barrel. That would be some pretty hot 9mm, no?

 

[Dench]

The article claims 500meters per second(1600+ fps), and a quick google suggests it’s a 9x19 7.2” barrel. That would be some pretty hot 9mm, no?

We almost certainly can't take the RT numbers at face value