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Shooters Outpost going into Amherst NH (old Sportsmans Trading) Status
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Not sure if serious. You mean the same gun shows where the vendors rat on other vendors, and then cajole the promoter into banning vendors because the one vendor had better pricing than them? Yeah I think most of us will pass on that.-Mike
Of course I'm not serious about the gun show, but the drama, lets just say a lot of northerners are in denial
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beaker
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This is a whacky position really. Why sell anyone a gun, they might hurt someone with it! They arent responsible for what their customers do with anything they sell. Ive bought ammo there lots of times with a mass LTC, why is a magazine different? Should they sell to NH residents because they might drive across the MA border?
CoastieRon
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I wonder if we can ever have a SO thread without the pig pile.....
A magazine is different because a Massachusetts resident can buy and have Ammo with the proper license but new magazines over 10 rounds are completely prohibited. Why should a New Hampshire dealer sell thst which you cannot buy in your state of residence? And I repeat my earlier question to all thos3 who claim to own property in NH why mot just get a NH drivers license? Thst will solve many of your problems.
Because technically speaking they are residents of MA. And if this became a thing eventually someone would have to explain how they ended up with a MA resident LTC and a NH drivers license (which requires you to be a resident of NH). If people want to do this anyway I say, it's your life do what you think is best, but remember PSGWSP.
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because by getting a NH driver's license if you aren't a resident more than 6 months a year there is fraud. Are you suggesting part time residents commit fraud? And nice inference...'claim to own property'. The tax bills are online.
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Yes, I remember when NH SP detained them. They woould radio plate numbers back to MSP troopers waiting for them just over the MA border.
I am certain that MA DOR's position would be that if you are a MA resident that you owe the "use tax" regardless of where the product ends up. I'm in the process of moving to NH and am in the same situation . . . and no, I'm not going to pay MA "use tax" on stuff bought in NH for my NH house.
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It's on the tax return and TurboTax asks about it, so my guess is April 15th.Yes - but when is that use tax due? Surely not the moment you step over the border . . .
So much NES jabber
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Yes - but when is that use tax due? Surely not the moment you step over the border . . .
So much NES jabber
Supposedly when you file your tax return.
Right, so I am wondering how a cop could watch for someone crossing the border and get them for not paying taxes.
Although isn't it technicly illegal to transport any alcohol no matter how little, back across the border to MA? Not that anyone ever obeys that of course. But a cop could try to get some for that. Years back in Maine I wanted to buy a case of delicious local fruit wine and bring it back to MA but they told me I could not because it was illegal to cross state borders with it.
citoriguy
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No - it depends on where the primary use is. If you’re a MA resident, not a trade or business, but an ordinary schmoe like most of on here, and you buy a fridge for your weekend/vacation house in NH, then there’s no problem. If you buy that same fridge in NH for use of your primary residence in MA, then technically you should report that as an untaxed purchase.
I’m sorry I even pointed it out in the first place.
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Allow me to introduce you to Gerard Comeau:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/supreme-court-free-the-beer-nb-gerard-comeau-1.4626217
R v Comeau - Wikipedia
In the NH versus Mass context, here's a hypo:
Mass cop sits on the NH border on a road where he can look into NH. Say Route 3. The Mass cop can see who is going into and out of NH package stores. He sees people go in, come out with liquor, then drive into Mass (assume Mass license plates rather than RI, CT, NY, etc.). That's what happened with Gerard Comeau because the New Brunswick/Quebec border has a bridge and the NB police knew people buying booze in QC would have to cross the bridge to get back home. If the cop can make an arrest over say tax violations, there's a search incident to lawful arrest and the cop can go through everything to find a receipt. Alternatively, the cop makes an arrest for something else like an OUI. Or better yet, the cop can just pull the car over and get the driver's consent to answer questions or be searched.
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Check out Commonwealth v. Blodgett, 53 Mass. 56 (1846), a case about RI militia going into Mass and arresting RI residents in Mass after the Dorr War. Similar to the Meldrim Thomson versus MSP situation. If Sununu were to arrest Mass police inside NH, Blodgett would come up.
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There is indeed a MGL that makes it illegal to "import" ANY amount of alcoholic beverages into MA! I found it accidentally when perusing some US Customs rules about bringing booze into the US and later I confirmed it with a former NES Mod who owns some liquor stores in MA.
I was surprised but I guess I shouldn't be . . . everything is indeed illegal in MA except being an illegal!
I'm sorry you missed my sarcastic comment about MA DOR.
AHM
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I just realized why I had to show Shooters Outpost my MA LTC-A/ALP
to buy two pairs of 5.11[[+]] Tacticool Pants -
The pants were high-capacity.
(42W 30L).
(42W 30L).
This thread delivers.
I didn't realize my guffaw upon reaching that line in the form last weekend
could be heard all the way to the Tri-Towns...
I think he means the gun shows where the vendors would
traditionally sell felony mags to all comers,
and lie to the buyer's face about them being "pre-ban".
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NHCraigT
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I drove by that route (on my way home from work) on Tuesday 4/16.
Here's what the location looked like (also, there is still on-going working being performed on the inside):
Funny coming from a guy who enforced MA gun laws and takes a MA pension to be taking so much shit to private business owner who employs 100 Americans and can be taken to court by the MA AG for arbitrary shit.
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It will be nice having them close by. I bought a shiny new to me P238 in Feb. The tag said it came with 2 holsters but they weren't in the box and I thought I must have confused it with another one I was looking at. They called me today and they have the holsters and when I asked they agreed to mail them to me. I appreciate not having to make that drive since I wouldn't have time to get up there for a few weeks. Anyone can make a mistake so I'm not mad they missed them. I appreciate the effort to make it right. They could have just swept it under the rug since it's been 2 months.
Some construction was going on there yesterday.
I can see by reading this thread that in such a case, there are some NES members that would not lend a hand in supporting the new gun store.
Probably not, but wouldn't it be nice if we were all on the same side of the 2A issue?
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