Shooting in nh?

[slap shot]

New Hampshire officials provide update on state hospital shooting in Concord

New Hampshire officials are providing an update on the state hospital shooting in Concord.

wgme.com

”Attorney General John Formella says Friday afternoon, 33-year-old suspect John Madore, who was homeless, opened fire at the psychiatric hospital with an AR-style rifle and killed security officer Bradley Haas...

New Hampshire State Police Colonel Mark Hall announced that after the shooting, bomb squads found a U-Haul idling in the parking lot and more guns and ammo were found but did not confirm this was linked to the shooter.“

NH Hospital gunman was patient there in past, court records show

The gunman, a 33-year-old transient man, had a history of mental health issues and had been a patient at the hospital in the past, according to court records.

www.wcvb.com

Looks like John Formella is a f***ing liar.

 

[kingson]

New Hampshire officials provide update on state hospital shooting in Concord

New Hampshire officials are providing an update on the state hospital shooting in Concord.

wgme.com

”Attorney General John Formella says Friday afternoon, 33-year-old suspect John Madore, who was homeless, opened fire at the psychiatric hospital with an AR-style rifle and killed security officer Bradley Haas...

New Hampshire State Police Colonel Mark Hall announced that after the shooting, bomb squads found a U-Haul idling in the parking lot and more guns and ammo were found but did not confirm this was linked to the shooter.“

NH Hospital gunman was patient there in past, court records show

The gunman, a 33-year-old transient man, had a history of mental health issues and had been a patient at the hospital in the past, according to court records.

www.wcvb.com

Funny all the other new articles said he used a 9mm handgun. One said that there was an AR15 found in the U haul. Guess the AR15 felt left out and wanted to be included

 

[Maxrobot]

Meanwhile in Baltimore - Students said they attended Tuesday night's coronation of Miss and Mr. Morgan State University, a popular annual homecoming week event. The shots were fired not long after the event ended. Five young adults were injured Tuesday night in a shooting on Morgan State University's campus. No one arrested yet.

BPD: Suspect at large after 5 injured in shooting at Morgan

Baltimore police are searching for a suspect after five young adults were injured Tuesday night in a shooting on Morgan State University's campus that prompted active shooter alerts.

www.wbaltv.com

 

[MAGA99]

Meanwhile in Baltimore - Students said they attended Tuesday night's coronation of Miss and Mr. Morgan State University, a popular annual homecoming week event. The shots were fired not long after the event ended. Five young adults were injured Tuesday night in a shooting on Morgan State University's campus. No one arrested yet.

BPD: Suspect at large after 5 injured in shooting at Morgan

Baltimore police are searching for a suspect after five young adults were injured Tuesday night in a shooting on Morgan State University's campus that prompted active shooter alerts.

www.wbaltv.com

Meh, that’s just their culture, don’t you know?

 

[MaverickNH]

Meh, that’s just their culture, don’t you know?

Historically Gangsta Colleges?

Rash of violence has not deterred Black parents from keeping their kids at HBCUs

More security measures are needed, they say, but “the power of the experience is too important” to deny.

www.nbcnews.com

They won’t be sending them to Harvard, Yale and Princeton…

 

[MAGA99]

Historically Gangsta Colleges?

Rash of violence has not deterred Black parents from keeping their kids at HBCUs

More security measures are needed, they say, but “the power of the experience is too important” to deny.

www.nbcnews.com

They won’t be sending them to Harvard, Yale and Princeton…

I love it when they self segregate!!

 

[OMM 0000]

We need to change that.

See my thread here:

https://www.northeastshooters.com/xen/threads/train-the-kids-megathread-post-pics-of-your-kids-grandkids-shooting-or-hunting.462721/

 

[MaverickNH]

I love it when they self segregate!!

I don’t like it when $$$ is spent to have “Affinity Ceremonies” at high school and college graduations so that different groups can have identity-segregated events. If we have to hear whining about the sad state of integration in our society, why should we encourage and fund such segrated events?

It’s past of that anti-racist dichotomy where two opposites can be true at the same time: we all have to learn how to live with one another but minority groups can choose to have segregated events paid by everyone. You want to pay for your own party/events - fine.

Affinity group ceremonies honor diverse student identities and celebrate community | Emory University | Atlanta GA

As part of the 2023 Commencement festivities, Campus Life hosted ceremonies for seven Belonging and Community Justice affinity groups. These programs honored students' achievements and supported them in exploring their identities while at Emory.

news.emory.edu

 

[headednorth]

I don’t like it when $$$ is spent to have “Affinity Ceremonies” at high school and college graduations so that different groups can have identity-segregated events. If we have to hear whining about the sad state of integration in our society, why should we encourage and fund such segrated events?

It’s past of that anti-racist dichotomy where two opposites can be true at the same time: we all have to learn how to live with one another but minority groups can choose to have segregated events paid by everyone. You want to pay for your own party/events - fine.

Affinity group ceremonies honor diverse student identities and celebrate community | Emory University | Atlanta GA

As part of the 2023 Commencement festivities, Campus Life hosted ceremonies for seven Belonging and Community Justice affinity groups. These programs honored students' achievements and supported them in exploring their identities while at Emory.

news.emory.edu

Everyone wants segregation, they just want to be the ones to set the terms

 

[Tartakovsky]

I have the same question, what does that mean? Passing through the area? Homeless? Where was he staying? Was he a "resident" of the Hospital at one time?

He was mentally adjudicated by a court. He was hospitalized by court order stemming from charges during his residence in Northwood in 2016.

 

[Maxrobot]

"John Madore was prohibited from possessing firearms, dangerous weapons or ammunition as part of a bail order in 2016." "...police took custody of two guns: a loaded SKS assault-style rifle with a 30-round magazine and a 9mm Sig Sauer handgun loaded with a 15-round magazine." "...those were not the weapons used in Friday's attack. Those firearms remain in the custody of the Strafford Police Department."
"...it's still unknown how Madore got the gun used in the attack and the rifle found in a U-Haul he had rented and parked at the hospital.
Had he tried to purchase them, he would have been required to note on the federal firearms application his involuntary admission to a mental health institution, which would have likely prevented the sale of the guns."
I wonder how he rented the truck. Did he have a valid license, credit card and insurance?

Documents show guns seized years ago from New Hampshire Hospital shooter weren't ones used in attack

Newly unsealed court documents are providing more details about the gun used in last week's fatal shooting at New Hampshire Hospital.

www.wmur.com

 

[HARRYM]

"John Madore was prohibited from possessing firearms, dangerous weapons or ammunition as part of a bail order in 2016." "...police took custody of two guns: a loaded SKS assault-style rifle with a 30-round magazine and a 9mm Sig Sauer handgun loaded with a 15-round magazine." "...those were not the weapons used in Friday's attack. Those firearms remain in the custody of the Strafford Police Department."
"...it's still unknown how Madore got the gun used in the attack and the rifle found in a U-Haul he had rented and parked at the hospital.
Had he tried to purchase them, he would have been required to note on the federal firearms application his involuntary admission to a mental health institution, which would have likely prevented the sale of the guns."
I wonder how he rented the truck. Did he have a valid license, credit card and insurance?

Documents show guns seized years ago from New Hampshire Hospital shooter weren't ones used in attack

Newly unsealed court documents are providing more details about the gun used in last week's fatal shooting at New Hampshire Hospital.

www.wmur.com

So, he could have not disclosed the involuntary admission and purchased them. Excuse my ignorance here but I thought the background check would have caught him. Also I guess he could have obtained them from other means and evaded any check.

 

[Qwikdraw45]

Once you are retired (if in fact you are officially retired), you cannot work and add years to pension calcs, he was collecting his pension and making additional money on top of it.

After you retire from a State Retirement job, you have to wait one year. Then you can come back and work (at least part-time). Some do it for the benefits.

 

[Kevin_NH]

So, he could have not disclosed the involuntary admission and purchased them. Excuse my ignorance here but I thought the background check would have caught him. Also I guess he could have obtained them from other means and evaded any check.

New Hampshire keeps mental health records confidential, is one of 3 states which do not share this data with the feds.

 

[rogersmithiii]

Something else to think about.

The politicians tell us to disarm, and let the government protect us.

How well did that work in Sandy Hook? Lewiston? Concord NH? Most major cities?

Were the dead people in those places protected by the government?

The government didn't protect the Armenians, the Jews, the Russians, Cambodians, Chinese, and Rwandans either.

Not a good track record to trust these idiots.

 

[42!]

New Hampshire keeps mental health records confidential, is one of 3 states which do not share this data with the feds.

I know there are those who disagree with me, but this is one I don't agree with. As long as the sharing of records is limited to those adjudicated mentally incompetent and involuntarily confined, I don't have a problem with including that in the database. Expecting people to tell the truth about this on a 4473 is ridiculous.

And before you all jump, whether or not there are background checks is a separate issue. I just figure, if they are going to be a thing, they should at least be effective in their purpose.

 

[paul73]

The politicians tell us to disarm, and let the government protect us.

technically, they don't really tell that government will protect. they only do tell to disarm.

 

[KBCraig]

New Hampshire keeps mental health records confidential, is one of 3 states which do not share this data with the feds.

NH Constitution:

[Art.] 2-b. [Right of Privacy.] An individual's right to live free from governmental intrusion in private or personal information is natural, essential, and inherent.

 

[ChevyGuy91]

New Hampshire keeps mental health records confidential, is one of 3 states which do not share this data with the feds.

Good.

 

[42!]

NH Constitution:

[Art.] 2-b. [Right of Privacy.] An individual's right to live free from governmental intrusion in private or personal information is natural, essential, and inherent.

Its the finding of a trial, same as a conviction. No more personal or private than that, and anyone can walk into a court and look at those.

I would definitely have a problem with it being included if the court's finding was NOT that the individual was mentally incompetent and required confinement. Or if it contained any specifics to the situation, just a yes or no flag on everyone's record so you can't even speculate if there was even a hearing with a no finding. I would even say that after release and a suitable grace period, say 5 uneventful years, and a psych eval confirmation, that the proabition can be remove.

Lifetime prohibition should come with lifetime confinement.

 

[MaverickNH]

Should hospital guards carry guns? State hospital an outlier in saying yes

November’s fatal shootings of an unarmed security officer and former patient inside the state psychiatric hospital could lead to a major policy change that most other hospitals in the state

www.sentinelsource.com

Ever heard of Level 3 retention holsters?

”Security staff assist medical staff in really close proximity to patients,” said John Patti, a retired Manchester police officer who oversees security at the hospital. “To have a firearm that close to patients, I think it’s certainly risky…

“There is absolute broad consensus that it would be dangerous to both patients and staff to have firearms allowed on patient units,” said Stearns. ”

 

[42!]

Should hospital guards carry guns? State hospital an outlier in saying yes

November’s fatal shootings of an unarmed security officer and former patient inside the state psychiatric hospital could lead to a major policy change that most other hospitals in the state

www.sentinelsource.com

Ever heard of Level 3 retention holsters?

”Security staff assist medical staff in really close proximity to patients,” said John Patti, a retired Manchester police officer who oversees security at the hospital. “To have a firearm that close to patients, I think it’s certainly risky…

“There is absolute broad consensus that it would be dangerous to both patients and staff to have firearms allowed on patient units,” said Stearns. ”

So the armed guards can be at the entry points and the unarmed staff can deal with aggressive patients inside the facility. They are trying to make it sound like there will be armed guards walking around the hospital. No, `just a protected perimeter.

 

[namedpipes]

I wonder how many unarmed guards, are.

 

[MaverickNH]

I wonder how many unarmed guards, are.

Most “guards” aren’t, armed or otherwise…they’re just medical bouncers.

 

[Kevin_NH]

Most “guards” aren’t, armed or otherwise…they’re just medical bouncers.

OTOh, the ones at mental hospitals have quick access to syringes of the good stuff.

 

[Palladin]

As I previously mentioned, getting into this place is through a series of locked doors, much like a prison. Once inside, no one is armed

 

[MaverickNH]

OTOh, the ones at mental hospitals have quick access to syringes of the good stuff.

 

[namedpipes]

Most “guards” aren’t, armed or otherwise…they’re just medical bouncers.

I meant unarmed guards in general. The guy in the gate shack or making fire rounds overnight. An unarmed guard isn't necessarily unarmed, just fired if he has to defend his life.