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The MA approved aren't out yet, so technically any p365 you buy in MA is used. Unless you're LEThere are brand-spankin-new P365's out there to be had. Used? USED???
The MA approved aren't out yet, so technically any p365 you buy in MA is used. Unless you're LE
...and isn't afraid to abide by themOr you find a dealer that knows the laws.
The MA approved aren't out yet, so technically any p365 you buy in MA is used. Unless you're LE
Huh???
...and isn't afraid to abide by them
A dealer can't, according to the law, sell a non MA approved handgun.I second that. Huh???
A dealer can't, according to the law, sell a non MA approved handgun.
It's ok to buy one, and it's ok to possess one, as long as you have your permission slip.
So you can buy a non MA approved handgun in a FtF from a private party, just not from a dealer.
This means the gun is not "new", because it has to have already gone through a retail transaction.
I'm pretty sure a sale to LE is exempt.
So a LEO could buy the gun, then decide he made a mistake and sell it in a FtF to anyone with an LTC. But even if he never fired it, it still is not "new".
Add to this that the MA approved P365 has not even shipped yet, and this means no new P365s for MA yet.
Of course I can get one at any of the LGS up here, and 12 round mags.
I don't see anything but vague comments from you, so please enlighten me.It’s not what you don’t know that gets you, it’s what you think you know, but don’t know.
A dealer can't, according to the law, sell a non MA approved handgun.
It's ok to buy one, and it's ok to possess one, as long as you have your permission slip.
So you can buy a non MA approved handgun in a FtF from a private party, just not from a dealer.
This means the gun is not "new", because it has to have already gone through a retail transaction.
I'm pretty sure a sale to LE is exempt.
So a LEO could buy the gun, then decide he made a mistake and sell it in a FtF to anyone with an LTC. But even if he never fired it, it still is not "new".
Add to this that the MA approved P365 has not even shipped yet, and this means no new P365s for MA yet.
Of course I can get one at any of the LGS up here, and 12 round mags.
I don't see anything but vague comments from you, so please enlighten me.
I'm having a hard time reconciling that Sig is producing a model that is specifically MA compliant, if in fact there is no need for this?
First off I made it clear I was talking about legally obtaining a p365 and I made specific reference to that, so yes someone can illegally obtain one. Seems like a poor hill to die on given that there are legal avenues, but you do what you want, we all have different levels of acceptable risk.Can't really address the first part without breaking the 1st rule of Fight Club, sorry.
As for Sig, they do a lot of stupid stuff. Look at HK, they didn't put any stupid safeties or 10 lb triggers on their VP9 for Mass. Sig and S&W interpret the law in unnecessary ways.
First off I made it clear I was talking about legally obtaining a p365 and I made specific reference to that, so yes someone can illegally obtain one. Seems like a poor hill to die on given that there are legal avenues, but you do what you want, we all have different levels of acceptable risk.
And you comments about the VP9 just show a lack of knowledge. The vp9 has a trigger safety (like a glock), so it has the required safety. As for Sig, I had a conversation with one of their guys about this very issue, 10lb trigger v. safety. They made an internal decision not to go the 10lb trigger route. All the Mfg. that seek MA approval make their own decision how to do it. But they all do it, or opt not to get approval.
And don't go off saying I'm endorsing any particular law. I'm talking about the way things are, not some fantasy of the way they "should" be.
After you set us straight on the "legal" process for handguns in Mass maybe slide over to the storage/transportation in Mass threads. We could use some help there too.First off I made it clear I was talking about legally obtaining a p365 and I made specific reference to that, so yes someone can illegally obtain one. Seems like a poor hill to die on given that there are legal avenues, but you do what you want, we all have different levels of acceptable risk.
And you comments about the VP9 just show a lack of knowledge. The vp9 has a trigger safety (like a glock), so it has the required safety. As for Sig, I had a conversation with one of their guys about this very issue, 10lb trigger v. safety. They made an internal decision not to go the 10lb trigger route. All the Mfg. that seek MA approval make their own decision how to do it. But they all do it, or opt not to get approval.
And don't go off saying I'm endorsing any particular law. I'm talking about the way things are, not some fantasy of the way they "should" be.
Ok good now that is all settled...
When is the Sig P365 with manual safety hitting the streets? My wife held a P365 last week and won’t stop talking about. Never seen her so excited over a firearm before.
I showed her the laser so of course she wants that too. Anyone have any experience with the Lima365? They did a good job making it seem like part of the gun. I heard early models had issues with the switch being hard to activate. Is it hard to zero or change batteries?
I've been hearing August, but I'll ask the Sig rep tomorrow.
Dam.I've been hearing August, but I'll ask the Sig rep tomorrow.
This. Anyone of us could have LEGALLY bought one of these when they were first released. No need to wait around for the compliance list to be updated. That list is meaningless essentially.What I'm talking about is completely legal, for the FFL and the buyer. Maybe rather than posting all this incorrect info, go find out how to buy free state guns legally in Mass.
The MA approved aren't out yet, so technically any p365 you buy in MA is used. Unless you're LE
Probably because some dealers are willing to take the “risk” since they’re both a P365 but one lacks a manual safety. Not like they’re selling the postban 12 round mags with them.FYI, I just got off the phone with a dealer in MA who has the P365 in stock brand new (it's even on their website). They claim that they're MA compliant, but with no manual safeties.
Frank
All I will say is the version Sig says is MA compliant is not even shipping yet.FYI, I just got off the phone with a dealer in MA who has the P365 in stock brand new (it's even on their website). They claim that they're MA compliant, but with no manual safeties.
Frank
Nailed it!This. Anyone of us could have LEGALLY bought one of these when they were first released. No need to wait around for the compliance list to be updated. That list is meaningless essentially.
The takeaway here, is to stop saying X handgun isn’t legal to own/buy in MA unless it’s on “the list”. That’s 100% false. End of story.
I ordered one of these off Ebay to help the mag loading issue
Sig Sauer P365 9mm Magazine Speedloader
Yeah, the mags are really tough to load initially but not so bad once they've been broken in a bit.got this today messed around with it a bit and I was able to load both mags much easier than just by hand (which was next to impossible) got it here since I wasn't sure if the website was free shipping MAKERSHOT Speedloader for Sig Sauer P365 9mm, Pistol Magazine Speed Loader | eBay